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Re:Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere' by xvector on Thursday March 25, 2021 @05:11AM (#26577920)
Setting boundaries is your job, not your job’s job.

Almost everyone I know works normal hours or less even during WFH.

To be perfectly clear, this is true regardless of WFH. Your work will never set boundaries for you as they benefit from you working harder and longer.

Re:Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere' by scandox on Thursday March 25, 2021 @10:33AM (#26580777)
Tech workers have a much stronger hand with their employers than many other groups. As a result I think we often don't see the kind of power imbalance that is going on and how hard it is to simply "do the rational thing" which seems so cut and dried to you.

The point I would make is that the WFH experience is very different for different groups. Like everything about the Pandemic it has had totally inequitable impacts on different people.

I'm in tech and I've had no issue, but many people I know are not and I've seen how it works out. Not everyone can just move to another job. Perhaps most people can't.

Re:Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere' by dx034 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @05:36AM (#26578076)
I disagree. The company has a responsibility to set rules around when it's ok to call people. Especially for junior employees it's very hard to decline calls from their managers late in the evening.

This has become a bigger issue as all communication is via phone or computer. Before, a lot was via personal interaction which just wasn't possible once you left the office. Now, no one really knows if someone is working or has already called it a day at any given point.

Re:Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere' by disgruntledphd2 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:17AM (#26578358)
Get a work phone/computer. Make it clear that you won't be available outside of business hours unless it's actually an emergency.

My Dad resisted getting a mobile phone from his company from the mid eighties to the 2000's, on the principle that if they can't contact you, they'll figure it out themselves.

Re:Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere' by dx034 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:28AM (#26578901)
I wasn't talking about myself or really any senior person. But tell that to an intern or someone in their first job. And that's the problem with flexible working, it's often especially terrible for the most junior employees.
Re:Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere' by adamhp on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:18AM (#26579300)
Not only that, but there's a great deal of privilege in being able to say "no". It is something the talented tech worker gets used to being able to do, because they have options elsewhere. They can design their employment because they have in-demand skills. But it doesn't necessarily mean everyone is comfortable with it or can afford to risk the consequences.
Re:Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere' by Firadeoclus on Thursday March 25, 2021 @04:15PM (#26584835)
> Your work will never set boundaries for you as they benefit from you working harder and longer.

Some workplaces do set boundaries, and it is not universally true that "harder and longer" working brings benefits.