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Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @09:21PM (#26575451)
Your comment in the best example i for how people are so busy drinking the cool aid they dont even know how things were done 50 years ago.

We had grain elevators and other stockpiles of essentials. A country would save grain from summer to feed it through winter, and have months spare. This does not result in some imaginary 'wastefull living'.

Obviously you don't stockpile coffee and selfie sticks

Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by nl on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @10:26PM (#26575875)
The Roosevelt-created grain reserve was a way to support the price of grain, not as a national security measure.

National food reserves are usually used like this (as a price buffer rather than a something to support security).

For example read about the National Raisin Reserve here: https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/87144/15-strategic-reser...

Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by unishark on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @11:54PM (#26576438)
But one of the main reasons a floor on price is desired is to allow farmers to survive financially and therefore keep the country in control of its own food production.
Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by psychiatrist24 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @05:49AM (#26578170)
I'm not saying that nothing should be stockpiled. A country should have dedicated emergency services, that should also plan for stuff they need in case of various emergencies. I don't think such a service would stock shipping containers, though.

Even with Covid we saw some of the hindsight comments. In the early days it was thought that ventilators were the bottleneck and they should have been stockpiled. But that seems to not have been an issue in the end. And if you were now to stockpile ventilators, perhaps the next pandemic would require something else.

Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by dividedbyzero on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @09:38PM (#26575584)
Given how many people would go through withdrawal if caffeine were to be unavailable all of a sudden, maybe nowadays coffee would be something worth having a bit of a stockpile of.
Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by robocat on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @10:20PM (#26575845)
Just keep a box of caffeine pills in your emergency rations. If coffee is unavailable, then use the pills to give up the habit, by reducing dosage every day. No headaches or other side effects (apart from missing the habit of making a coffee).
Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by psychiatrist24 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @05:45AM (#26578136)
I bought caffeine pills when I went on a multi day hiking trip, because I was really worried about withdrawal :-) In the end I didn't need them, one cup of coffee I was able to get in the hut in the morning was enough.
Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by kipchak on Thursday March 25, 2021 @10:23AM (#26580643)
The Mount Hagen single instant coffee packets are pretty decent and light if you're boiling water on the trail.
Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by occamrazor on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:03AM (#26576996)
Switzerland has a strategic coffee stockpile.

Of course every country has stockpiles of fuel and grains.

Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by psychiatrist24 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @01:38PM (#26583112)
I find the thought of a strategic coffee stockpile pretty amusing :-)
Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by yya44 on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @09:41PM (#26575602)
Everything you just described happens today, even considering your bogeyman of globalism. Visit Iowa or Saskatchewan if you don’t believe me. The nice thing about grain elevators is they’re fairly easy to spot from a distance. Had globalism taken them from us, a few people would have noticed.

If you think any first world nation is entirely reliant on global trade for subsistence of its populace (yes, even UK) you’ve been playing far too much Civilization. Now if you want to talk about the impact of globalism on crop markets and by extension a small operator, you have something to discuss. But you’re not saying that.

Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by mrzimmerman on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @10:09PM (#26575800)
Also, various grains are considered essential elements of national security and are stockpiled and protected like many other resources.

It’s ludicrous to think that just because there is more global trade all governments have given up on their own interests and are just subject to the wills of “globalism”.

Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by arminiusreturns on Thursday March 25, 2021 @01:31AM (#26576871)
What is ludicrous is ignoring the dangers of both approaches, globalism and antiglobalism, with hand wavy strawmen. There are real issues, and while gp might not have articulated them well, your dismissal reads as a cliche response and not a genuine point of discussion or call for debate.
Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by JKCalhoun on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @11:16PM (#26576202)
> The nice thing about grain elevators is they’re fairly easy to spot from a distance.

Agree. But how do we know they're full? ;-)

Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by gnud on Thursday March 25, 2021 @05:33AM (#26578063)
Well, the UK seems to be OK, but Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, for example, are way below caloric self-sufficiency [0].

According to this hard-to-read map [1], Ireland, Italy, Spain and Portugal also seems to be below 1.

0: http://www.fao.org/3/i2493e/i2493e03.pdf 1: http://www.fao.org/3/i5222e/i5222e.pdf

Re:Where are all the containers? The global shortage explained by pjc50 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:40AM (#26577158)
The UK is definitely reliant on global trade for subsistence, as was found during WW2.