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Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by esja on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:11PM (#26558202)
You might have been downvoted for conflating gay and trans concerns as though they are the same. From what I've observed there are genuine conflicts between those communities and discussion is necessary to resolve them - it's not automatically "criticism".

For example quite a few of the "gender critical" people being referred to here are actually lesbians, and they've been accused of hate or transphobia because they loudly refuse to adjust their sexual preferences to include males who identify as women. It's impossible to satisfy both gay and trans people on this specific topic.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by csunbird on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:18PM (#26558300)
Forcing anyone to change their sexual preferences because of social justice is plain wrong.
Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by esja on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:20PM (#26558314)
Of course. And being accused of hate or shamed for not wanting to change your sexual preference is deeply regressive.
Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by morelisp on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:21PM (#26558340)
Weird how the gender critical community comes out of the shattered remains of the political lesbian community who wanted to do exactly that.
Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by debacle on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:24PM (#26558379)
For my own edification, is "political lesbian" a single term? Is there a special definition there? Thanks.
Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by afuchs on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @03:09PM (#26559009)
There was/is a subset of radical feminism that saw heterosexuality as something that perpetuated patriarchal oppression [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism#Radical_lesbi...

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by debacle on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @03:15PM (#26559094)
Thank you for the link.
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Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by esja on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:58PM (#26558867)
I'm talking about someone I know who has been in precisely this situation.

You don't know anything about me, or that situation, but you are happy to accuse me of:

- Claiming to speak for lesbians - Spreading propaganda from bigots - Using "abuser tactics" - Having unexamined prejudices - Making prejudicial assumptions - Having no respect for trans people - Not engaging in good faith

I'd actually be really happy to discuss this topic in good faith, as it's important to someone I care about, and you clearly have a very different opinion. But I'd want you to read the HN guidelines first and make an effort to follow them.

Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by zozbot234 on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @02:55PM (#26558813)
> If you make blanket statements like “I’m not attracted to people of X group,” you likely have some unexamined prejudice

Does that also apply when the group is men/women (as opposed to AMAB/AFAB folks which would be the 'gender critical' view)? Should we all be pansexual?

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Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by zozbot234 on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @03:26PM (#26559244)
What about lesbians who are concerned that some AMAB folks in their community might simply objectify them sexually, in a way that others would be a lot less likely to? Doesn't that seem like a good reason to be a bit warier when interacting with some group of people?
Re:Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public ... by randomswede on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @04:41AM (#26564847)
There's quite a gap between "there are some women lesbian L would not date" and "all trans women are really men".