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Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by danielEM on Monday March 22, 2021 @10:07AM (#26540948)
USB, HDMI, Cable ethernet, DisplayPort, PCIe, ... they all use differential signals to transmit data, just different protocols. We could really and truly have just one type of plug to connect everything to everything a long time ago and without proprietary licenses. As much as I like what USB-C offers as much I hate it and other "stupid" standards that duplicate same function just with differnt plugs - transfering data.
Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by floatboth on Monday March 22, 2021 @10:59AM (#26541753)
But it offers exactly things like allocating some lanes to DisplayPort.

The unfortunate thing is that Thunderbolt was created, and instead of a simple way to make PCIe external, we have this Intel-created mess that tunnels PCIe over some cursed "MPLS-like network" or whatever it is. And it was completely Intel-proprietary until recently. At least now the spec is open.

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by Kliment on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @04:52AM (#26552604)
The spec is still not open, as far as I can tell. The TB4 mode of USB4 appears to still be proprietary.
Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by floatboth on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @12:34PM (#26556954)
Well, sorry, wrong word. Not public open, but no longer Intel-exclusive.
Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by hctaw on Monday March 22, 2021 @10:44AM (#26541532)
Different physical connectors prevents you from frying a device that gets plugged into the wrong plug.

We should have different connectors for different data rates and power levels. Don't pass the buck to designers, they'll screw up.

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by danielEM on Monday March 22, 2021 @08:40PM (#26549485)
Usb already offers couple of different data rates and power levels, so wonder why they use just one usb-c connector for all of it? ;)

Ok, sarcasm aside. Technicaly you dont need separate plugs for different connection levels and power transmission up to certain powers. Initial data exchange at some base speed and minimum power requirements can provide necesarry information for devices to establish or refuse connection

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by hctaw on Monday March 22, 2021 @10:29PM (#26550310)
The variety of what is "supported" is also why it's taken years for USB-C to see any modicum of use outside mobile phone chargers that required the higher power and data rates. It's still not commonplace.

And it's still only useful for low power devices.

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by williamscales on Monday March 22, 2021 @02:01PM (#26544317)
I've asked a lot of hardware engineers why ethernet is not simply used for everything.

I've never gotten a real answer, one that involves technical reasons. It could be done, but it isn't.

I guess people like having different kinds of cables?

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by danielEM on Monday March 22, 2021 @08:51PM (#26549562)
World would be prettier with just ethernet (aldo it is not perfect)