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Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by magicalhippo on Monday March 22, 2021 @09:49AM (#26540732)
> just because the two USB-C ports on a laptop look the same, doesn’t mean they work the same.

This is already a solved problem[1] through color coding. Not sure why they couldn't use that scheme. Maybe combine a few to indicate things like DisplayPort and Thunderbolt capability, could have up to four quadrants for example.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_System_Design_Guide#Color-c...

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by tenacious_tuna on Monday March 22, 2021 @10:45AM (#26541542)
> this is already a solved problem through color coding

Speaking from experience, I don't think most end users are liable to pay enough attention to their ports to notice the color coding. I remember family members being confused by the blue 3.0 ports when those were a thing--now there's also red ones, and different color C ones, and some C ports have the little lightning bolt and some don't, and most users don't know what THAT means.

The value-add of USB C was supposedly you didn't have to buy different cables for different purposes now, you could just slap everything on a C port. But of course that's not truly the case, and we're now in a messy soup of standards and capabilities that even to seasoned tech professionals are hard to disentangle, much less for end users.

Calling this a solved problem 'cuz they slapped some colors on some of the ports is missing the forest for the trees.

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by sgtnoodle on Monday March 22, 2021 @02:14PM (#26544533)
I built a new desktop recently, and the case has a USB-C port on its top panel. I had to buy a $20 PCI-E card to have somewhere legit to plug the port into because my motherboard didn't support it. I had the option of trying to make it USB 3.1 or whatever, thunderbolt, or USB 3.0 or even 2.0 via a series of adapters that probably shouldn't exist but do on ali express.

I doubt I'll ever plug anything but a smart phone into it, but it seemed worth it for the feng shui.

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by yarcob on Monday March 22, 2021 @01:17PM (#26543699)
Does the bolt mean Thunderbolt or power delivery?
Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by sgtnoodle on Monday March 22, 2021 @02:17PM (#26544563)
My wife's laptop has three USB-C ports and the laptop charges off all 3, but only one has the bolt. I strongly suspect it means Thunderbolt support, i.e. it's the only port that will work well with a dock.
Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by Piskvorrr on Monday March 22, 2021 @10:36AM (#26541405)
Nope. That's a UX fail: "of course they're different, didn't you RTFM and observe the correct color?"
Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by reaperducer on Monday March 22, 2021 @12:29PM (#26543055)
This is already a solved problem[1] through color coding

You would think so, but no. Colors don't help.

Not just because a good chunk of the population has color vision issues. But people for some reason the average person can't latch onto that sort of thinking.

We went through this back in the 90's. Your PS/2 mouse plug was one color, and the PS/2 keyboard plug was another color. But people still tried to stick them in the wrong places.

Same with the sound card. Microphone, speakers, line in, line out, all had their own colors that matched the wires that came in the box. Regular people screwed that up all the time.

Going further back to the 70's and 80's, if you looked at the back of anyone's rack system, there was a 50% chance they had the red/white pairs of RCA plug backwards. Then when video started getting carried over the same plug, but colored yellow, things got worse.

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by dspillett on Monday March 22, 2021 @12:52PM (#26543357)
Not when there are many ports out there without the right colours. Or with the wrong colours. Or arbitrary different colours because some manufacturer has a "bright" idea on their own. Or where it doesn't matter (were the keyb/mouse ports generally interchangeable? I certainly had two machines where they were despite the colour coding and I've seen single ports with "key/mouse" iconography since).

Maybe if the next standard has colours to start with, and they are unambiguous, and somehow not even ambiguous if confused with a previous port version, and they are adhered to by all manufactures, consistently, and nothing new arrives that someone adds a colour for before the standards body makes a decision...

Re:I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device by xondono on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @07:47AM (#26553888)
Except when your gizmo (or laptop) manufacturer founds out that the color they need is out of stock and replaces it with another color.