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Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by SilverRed on Sunday March 21, 2021 @09:58PM (#26536047)
Autism is very different for everyone who has it. No one is saying that autistic people are assholes, but that stallman may not see or understand how his comments are taken or why people will get upset when the comment is factually correct.
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by howinteresting on Sunday March 21, 2021 @10:44PM (#26536317)
Speaking as an autistic person, that really does not matter. Even though I don't believe in free will, I do believe that a functioning society requires people with power (like RMS, in his capacity as a free software leader) to be held responsible for the harm they cause regardless of how neurodivergent they are.

What about all the other people who were excluded from the movement because RMS was an ass? A common human fallacy is to overindex on the contributions of assholes, while ignoring the potential contributions of those who were excluded by their actions.

Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by bobsled on Sunday March 21, 2021 @10:49PM (#26536349)
How does one accurately quantify hypothetical contributions by people who may or may not exist?
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by howinteresting on Sunday March 21, 2021 @10:52PM (#26536364)
Most things in life aren't quantifiable, unfortunately. In our field we're spoiled by how many things can be reduced to numbers, but when it comes to interactions between humans it's essentially impossible. So instead, we have to use subjective evaluations.

My subjective evaluation, having met RMS in person and looked at the consistent patterns in his behavior, is that he is "below replacement value" -- he has overall caused far more harm than the average person in his position would have.

Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by bobsled on Sunday March 21, 2021 @11:00PM (#26536418)
Thank you for the clarification. Please understand that I don't mean to be pedantic.
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by kelnos on Monday March 22, 2021 @03:52AM (#26537903)
I agree with the sibling that there are many things in life that we just can't reduce to numbers. Sometimes you can't make a decision based on hard, irrefutable data. You just have to go by what you think will or won't happen based on the possible choices.

In this case, though we actually could, if we wanted to, find some data. We could go around and ask a bunch of people if they wanted to get involved with the FSF but didn't, and see how many of those people were turned off by RMS. Another option could be to look at the demographics of people getting involved in the FSF before and after RMS had been outsted, and compare.

None of that is perfect, and especially the second option would only give you a correlation, not necessarily causation. But, again, our data will always be incomplete, and you just have to go with what your experience tells you will or won't happen.

Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by Avshalom on Sunday March 21, 2021 @10:06PM (#26536092)
Literally:

>>thoughtless / mean / an ass

>This is precisely what people with autism tend to be