GP is talking about safety for pedestrians, not safety for passengers. Is Tesla the safest vehicle for pedestrians who are accidentally struck?

I'd imagine that would be something like the V40 with its pedestrian airbags that pop up under the hood.

There's not a single Tesla in the safest cars tested by EuroNCAP. There were, in 2019, but even the small Toyota Yaris scores higher today. Remember a score of X in 2019 is way less than a score of X in 2021. The tests are harder to pass now.

That's just bullshit. You can see all the tested vehicles from Euro NCAP website. They haven't tested Teslas in 2020 and 2021 because there hasn't been new models. Model Y hasn't been tested yet.

In fact, on the Euro NCAP website their latest 'safest cars' list is from 2019, and you see that Model 3 and Model X are the safest cars in their category. You really think that the safest cars in 2019 can't pass the tests in 2021?

https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/best-in-class-ca...

You don't seem to understand how the ratings work as it's not about not passing but that the 2019 Tesla's won't get five stars if they were tested today while other newer cars do get five stars. So no, the Tesla's are not safer than cars with five stars in 2020. They don't even have the required safety equipment to get the 5 stars. The safest car list is from 2019. All five star rating under the new tests are safer than the cars on that list. I'm sure newer Teslas will do fine but 2019 cars in 2020? No, they won't be in the top now.

Edit: This thread is about the cybertruck and its edges that won't get a good score in the Vulnerable Road Users test. The old Tesla's don't even score as high as new small cars do.

This is a bit confusing, it doesn't seem like there are any tests of Teslas at all after 2019. (https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/safest-family-ca...) and the Teslas are the best in 3 of 8 classes in the 2019 "Best in Class" cars list on their website, which is the most recent year available.

It does seem there were changes to the tests in 2020, but not 2021, and they say "2020 assessments differ significantly from previous years and star ratings should not be directly compared with those from earlier years."

So IDK, your comment seems misleading?

The test was changed in 2020 yes (it was made harder). The you link is the last list but lots of cars have been tested since then. I'm aware than no Tesla have been tested in 2020 but you can still compare numbers if you have an idea what to look for (just don't only do X = X). For example the Tesla doesn't have as many air bags as those scoring high in 2020-2021 (even the mentioned small Toyota Yaris have Centre Airbags between the seats to get five stars) and even if you do compare scores directly (even though the new scores are harder to get) the Tesla with the highest score in the Vulnerable Road Users test (which is what the cybertruck would fail) scores 74 while the Toyota scores 78. The Polestar 2 gets 80. Saying Tesla is the safest cars today is not true. Most 2020-2021 cars are safer, even small ones and that's not even counting the mess that is Tesla's "autopilot".

Meh, seems like a stretch. I’ll wait for the real numbers.

Gotta love the casual dismissal of his explanations, but you're a Musk fanboy, so it's understandable.

What he said makes sense. The tests get harder in order to ensure cars become safer. My car got the best safety rating when it came out, but that was 11 years ago. If Tesla hasn't changed its design for the 2020/21 models to improve safety, then my guess is it doesn't make sense for them to waste their resources testing it.

It's one year of change to the test, and I don't know enough about it other than the people doing the rating ask you not to compare them across years. So I'll wait to compare apples-to-apples. I'm sure there is some difference and the test becomes harder.