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Re:Tesla's “full self driving” beta is potentially dangerous by joe_the_user on Friday March 19, 2021 @10:52PM (#26520417)
Most of the companies are doing what you might call "realistic AI": some definable goal (like self-driving)

Self-driving is absolutely the key problem, I'd say. I sympathize with you optimism. I'm optimistic about what "computers can do" but I'm pessimistic about DNNs + standard control becoming able to navigate the human-machine border.

Basically, I think a lot of problem are "AGI-complete", especially problem around human-computer interaction, more problems than people like to admit. And Remember, for things just in the NP-complete class, an "average" problem can be easy, it's the few examples that prove troublesome. It seems to me that AGI-complete problems are similar (and yes, I realize the term is a neolism, defined by only extension etc but I'd still say it's valid).

I also think you were unfairly jumped on, and that you had a fine point, for what it's worth. Thanks for the prompt.

Theoretically having lots of "karma" should make me not care about it. Theoretically...

Re:Tesla's “full self driving” beta is potentially dangerous by lumost on Saturday March 20, 2021 @12:30AM (#26520816)
Basically, I think a lot of problem are "AGI-complete", especially problem around human-computer interaction, more problems than people like to admit.

Having recently become a parent, I have a newfound appreciation for how complex spatial navigation tasks are. Children learn to recognize faces and objects within the first 6 weeks to 4 months of their lives. They learn to navigate environments over the next 1-5 years language is fully understood for non-gibberish use cases over the next 5-20 years. It's not a fair comparison, but it provides for roughly the only yard stick we know of.

Re:Tesla's “full self driving” beta is potentially dangerous by codebolt on Saturday March 20, 2021 @03:37AM (#26521462)
I think the comparison to NP-completeness is very apt. Will have to borrow that one.