Re:What’s up with these new not-open source licenses?
by chrisseaton on Thursday March 18, 2021 @04:44PM
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The OSI should have picked their own term that they could have trademarked, not an existing simply descriptive term, then we wouldn't have this problem.
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Re:What’s up with these new not-open source licenses?
by kube-system on Thursday March 18, 2021 @05:41PM
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They did. "OSI" and "Open Source Initiative" are their trademarks. Which is why people should use these words instead. These do only have one clear meaning.
Re:What’s up with these new not-open source licenses?
by autarch on Thursday March 18, 2021 @04:49PM
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As far as I know, the term "open source" was coined by the same people who were involved in founding OSI (though the OSI founders were a subset of the people who first used the term). I'd be very curious to see examples of widespread use before 1997 or so.
See the Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source
Re:What’s up with these new not-open source licenses?
by chrisseaton on Thursday March 18, 2021 @05:10PM
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> As far as I know, the term "open source" was coined by the same people who were involved in founding OSI
I think this has been shown to be a bit of a myth.
They claim to have coined it in 1998 but there's evidence of it in use in context without even needing to explain the idea by other people as far back as 1993.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.os.ms-windows.pro...
Also, the fact is the USPTO wouldn't allow them to trademark it because it has a simple existing descriptive term.
Re:What’s up with these new not-open source licenses?
by kube-system on Thursday March 18, 2021 @05:18PM
(#26507659)
It was a descriptive term used for intelligence (i.e. OSINT) well before 1998. Here's a book from 1976 using the term several times:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Human_intelligence/VE9s...
Re:What’s up with these new not-open source licenses?
by EarlKing on Thursday March 18, 2021 @04:57PM
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You are misinformed. The term "open source" has a history that predates the OSI by at least eight years, possibly longer (but I can only provide cites going back eight years). Please see my full reply here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26507460
Re:What’s up with these new not-open source licenses?
by kube-system on Thursday March 18, 2021 @04:58PM
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For example, read the last line of this: