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Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants by lmm on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:06PM (#26499353)
Layers 2 and 3 are not real - most networks today merge their functions in the same devices. (In the OSI model switches are illegal, you can only have hubs and routers).

4 and 7 are ceasing to be real - HTTP2 is both a session protocol and an application protocol, and that's before we even get into things like DoH.

Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants by quesera on Thursday March 18, 2021 @09:16AM (#26502314)
You're not wrong, but you are speaking from the perspective of a single implementation stack, i.e. modern Ethernet and the modern Internet.

The model is still solid, even if the most common implementation has melted a bit.

Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants by lmm on Thursday March 18, 2021 @09:26PM (#26509382)
I disagree. The model was supposed to be universal but it fell apart as soon as people started doing anything slightly unanticipated with it. It's simultaneously both overengineered and fragile, not providing enough insight to justify its complexity - rather like OSI itself. There's a reason their protocol suite was a failure in the real world.
Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants by quesera on Friday March 19, 2021 @11:35AM (#26514543)
That's fair and I agree that the OSI model is not useful for a precise understanding of deployed networking technology.

I do think it is useful as an architectural device or a conceptual design goal -- i.e. a model to model your models on. :)

But I also concede that part of its teaching value is that it is a failure in practice.

It was a formalization of the ad hoc (successful!) design strategies of early networking. I see echoes of it everywhere, most obviously in the Linux kernel, and I think it's valuable for that.