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Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by sixQuarks on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:24AM (#26492509)
I don't know why we have to sugarcoat it. Not only can anyone not be able to code, I'd go as far as saying that MOST people will never be able to code a production application no matter how much teaching/resources you throw their way.

My mother, at her peak, would have never learned how to code even if you held a gun to her head.

Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by bmitc on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:30AM (#26492594)
Would have is different than could have.

There’s lots of things in life I don’t care to learn, but it doesn’t mean I couldn’t. To be perfectly frank, programming is one of the easier things in life I’ve learned, and it’s usually only difficult for the wrong reasons like poor documentation, bugs in other people’s code, people, etc.

Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by loblollyboy on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:40AM (#26492720)
This. First of all, I don’t think there is a “critical” period for learning programming like there is for languages, or motor skills (try learning to skateboard as an adult). My school curriculum, a foreign language and, yes, skateboarding have all been a lot more challenging than programming. I’d say that learning network administration is probably a lot harder too b/c stuff like that isn’t as logical as a programming language.
Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by sixQuarks on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:48AM (#26492830)
I actually meant could have.
Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by adityarao310 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @01:31PM (#26494345)
Learning to code != learning to run a prod app with real clients.

I can learn to surf without being a professional surfer. So why can't I learn to code without wanting to make a career out of it?

PS I am the original blog author

Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by crispyambulance on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:54AM (#26492900)
> ...never be able to code a production application...

It's true, the vast majority of people will never code a "production application".

BUT, many folks code everyday in the form of excel macros, R, Mathematica, Matlab or Julia notebooks. Many people create programs and scripts in all kinds of tools to get stuff done. IT'S ALL STILL PROGRAMMING, it's just not what folks here would consider a traditional "production application". The people who do this are domain practitioners who use computing to do things, but don't have a need to spend a million dollars to hire a team of "real programmers" and their entourage of PMP's, sales, support, and customer success agents to do it for them.

As far as folks "not being able to code" that's all a matter of inclination and background. There's nothing special about software development. Lot's of people can do successfully at various levels. Some are more DIY than others, but I think you would be surprised at what some people's grandma's can do with the right motivation and background.

Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by klibertp on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @01:22PM (#26494223)
> There's nothing special about software development.

There's also "nothing special" about writing. Somehow, though, we don't see millions of Hemingways pop up each year.

Writing code is a form of art. There is a science behind it, but the same is true for many other art forms. It's true that everybody can be an artist. Not everybody can be a good artist, though. It's equally true for writers, painters, and coders.

Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by crispyambulance on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @06:19PM (#26497483)
We don't need "millions of Hemingway's".

The parent comment was suggesting that very few people can code-- and by "code" they meant "production applications".

I am trying to say that lot's of people can code, well enough to solve their domain problems, well enough to put food on their tables, well enough to not need "real programmers" in increasing numbers of scenarios. Just because they're not doing internet scale application development or cutting edge mission critical projects doesn't mean they "can't code".

There's a long and continuous spectrum between Hemingway-like programmers to bored-out-of-their-skulls enterprise developers to lunch-time dilettantes who are running a far more of their business than they should on brittle excel pivot tables and VBA macros.

Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by snicker7 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @02:31PM (#26495079)
And "writing" is still a good skill to have, even if you are not a professional essayist or author.
Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by klibertp on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @02:55PM (#26495371)
Yes. But writing a letter to friend (or automating your accounting in Excel) differs from writing "War and Peace" (or writing an OS kernel). I think everybody is capable of learning to do the former, but have a really hard time beliving the same for the latter.
Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by wombatmobile on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:33AM (#26492631)
If your mother ever told you how to do something which required you to make decisions along the way, she’s a coder.
Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by Dudeman112 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @12:48PM (#26493680)
According to that reasoning, babies are coders too.
Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by wombatmobile on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @07:12PM (#26497958)
Babies' demands certainly do compel parents to figure out what to do so they can get enough peace to grab time back for themselves.

What changes once babies grow into toddlers is that they develop the capacity to learn new behaviours, not just through the trial and error of stimulus/response, but through instructions given by language. That's where mothers and fathers excel. The quality of their instructions can be measured by the agility and resilience of the behaviour these instructions impart.

Done well, parenting is not just coding - it's software engineering.

Re:I self-learned to code at 30 by Dudeman112 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @10:49AM (#26503266)
Then we are all coders. Even dogs are coders.

Guess they were wrong when they said people from dying industries should learn some programming: we were coders all along!