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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by yaml-ops-guy on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @10:58AM (#26492134)
2b) Start coding again because your superiors promote you to management but treat you like you’re still an IC and ask why you haven’t contributed any points to the latest sprint while actively shutting you out of the kinds of discussions and decisions an EM would be making in most other orgs—-while somehow simultaneously asking you to also be the bearer of frequently changing and poorly communicated business priorities for your subordinates

Yes it’s happened to me, yes I’m a bit bitter about it, yes I’m looking for a new job because of it

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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by Viliam1234 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @06:37PM (#26497662)
Heh, I also fell into this trap once. (I no longer work there.)

Just as much coding work as before, plus becoming the interface between the developers and the actual management, with no pay raise of course. Not able to change anything, but regularly reminded that I am responsible for the results.

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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by eecks on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @06:45PM (#26497719)
What was your solution? Just get a new job? I find myself in this situation now..
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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by gfodor on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:32AM (#26492620)
Haha the cherry on top if so: were you paid the same?
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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by yaml-ops-guy on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:33AM (#26492633)
I sardonically feel like you already know the answer to this ;)

(but yes)

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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by acconrad on Thursday March 18, 2021 @09:34PM (#26509410)
Are you interested in being an engineering manager? If so send me an email we're hiring
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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by camjohnson26 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:23AM (#26492501)
I keep seeing this IC term here but never saw it before, is that “Independent Consultant”?
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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by ska on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @02:01PM (#26494753)
It means "individual contributor" , and implies you don't have any reports. As opposed to "tech lead" or "player-coach" (currently in vogue) which implies you are supposed to be effective as a technical contribute but also have a formal manager relationship with at least one person. Let a lone a classic manager who doesn't do much or any direct contribution technically.

There is some confounding in this thread of manager-of-people roles and manager-of-things roles, which also causes confusion.

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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by webloem on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:27AM (#26492545)
Individual Contributor
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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by shoo on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @03:52PM (#26496029)
less seriously: indentured chattel, information curdler, integration cobbler, indigent craftsperson, imaginative collaborator, introverted creative, incredulous cynic, inventive clerk.
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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by eecks on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @06:45PM (#26497724)
Can we start a support group?
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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by yaml-ops-guy on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @09:11PM (#26498770)
I’ll bring snacks
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