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Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by toyg on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @10:37PM (#26485869)
> if you're referring to all the stuff baked into Firebug outside it's debug pane

Yes, you're focusing on the debugger only. The fact is, most people simply did not use Venkman since it was hard to understand how to use it, for what context it was meant. Firebug tied the debugger into a wider context, making it more accessible, and reached a level of popularity that Venkman never had.

Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by pwdisswordfish0 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @12:40AM (#26486615)
The point remains: Venkman was the better debugger.

> a level of popularity that Venkman never had

You're not saying anything I don't already know.