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Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by mrkramer on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:04PM (#26484908)
Why would Google pay for this when they already crawled and are crawling whole Wikipedia and have complete index of it?

Better way for Wikipedia to earn extra revenue are affiliate links. A lot of people when they read and learn about some topic go to Amazon and buy a book about that topic. Wikipedia could embed book affiliate links and earn commission from book sales.

Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by xwx on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:33PM (#26485091)
Affiliate links seems like a type of advert or they at least share some of the arguments against implementing them on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Funding_Wikipedia_th...
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by superluserdo on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:31PM (#26485080)
That sounds like a horribly perverse incentive for the world's main free and open source of information.
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by mrkramer on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:36PM (#26485117)
I mean Wikipedia offers basic information about some topic it's not like you are about to get deep insight unless you buy a book. And I bet Wikipedia generated millions of book sales like I said people who read an article from Wikipedia and went to Amazon or Google to search for a book.
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by robjan on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:58PM (#26485285)
If Wikipedia starts to receive commission for selling books the incentive changes from recommending the best book to the one who pays then the most
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by mrkramer on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @09:14PM (#26485380)
It's not about "who pays the most" it's about the best book. Book authors compete against each other to write the best book and therefore generate more sales.

Imagine reading an article from Wikipedia and at the end of the article it says "If you want to learn more about this topic take a look at our recommended books" and link leads you to dedicated page which lists let's say top 20 most popular books about that topic.

It can even replace Goodreads in a sense that Wikipedia community can rate, review and recommend books to each other.

Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by MattGaiser on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:38PM (#26485134)
Perverse incentives for book authors too. You could create a industry generating books to cite on Wikipedia.
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by PopePompus on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @10:04PM (#26485659)
I do a lot of Wikipedia editing, and I'm fine with them monetizing an Enterprise API. But affiliate links are too close to advertising. IMHO one of the best features of Wikipedia is the lack of Ads, and if they start going down that route I'm gotta there.
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by vosper on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:31PM (#26485081)
> Why would Google pay for this when they already crawled and are crawling whole Wikipedia and have complete index of it?

Google's not the only enterprise out there :) I believe Wikipedia's taxonomy is used by lots of people for ML purposes, for example.

Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by easton on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:59PM (#26485288)
But for ML you’d probably want to download the whole thing anyway, considering it’s only like 47GB. I doubt many people want to make a model on only soccer pages or something.
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by ckoerner on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @09:33PM (#26485477)
There’s an SLA involved in this service. Business people like SLAs. :)
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by busyant on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:53PM (#26485243)
> affiliate links

Sounds well-intentioned, but it would be immediately gamed by every unscrupulous entity and ruin Wikipedia.

Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by judge2020 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:30PM (#26485074)
Well, they are already a big donor:

https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/annualreport/2019-annu...

> Google Matching Gifts Program

Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by Clewza313 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @09:31PM (#26485467)
If you work at Google, they will 1:1 match donations to virtually any non-profit, plus there's various charity drives where employees get to donate company money. So the match program can become a huge donor just off random Googlers donating.
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by throwaway53453 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @10:11PM (#26485700)
The distinction doesn't really matter though, does it? Makes no different if it's Googlers as opposed to Google itself.
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by markdown on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @09:12PM (#26485359)
Google has already set a precedent by agreeing to pay massive corporations for news. If they're willing to do that, why shouldn't they pay WikiMedia for all the content they use?
Re:Introducing the Wikimedia Enterprise API by m463 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:32PM (#26486208)
That will lead to many unexpected, possibly perverse, incentives.