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Re:Why inflation is not a threat by throw0101a on Sunday March 14, 2021 @10:50AM (#26455875)
Demonstrably false. Ten years ago a bunch of folks predicted a bunch of bad things would happen because of money printing and QE:

> We believe the Federal Reserve's large-scale asset purchase plan (so-called "quantitative easing") should be reconsidered and discontinued. We do not believe such a plan is necessary or advisable under current circumstances. The planned asset purchases risk currency debasement and inflation, and we do not think they will achieve the Fed's objective of promoting employment.

* https://economics21.org/html/open-letter-ben-bernanke-287.ht...

A bunch of other folks (generally Keynesians, like Paul Krugman), said the above was non-sense.

The results of the 'experiment' came in: the Keynesians were right. See also "expansionary austerity".

In fact Krugman recently wrote an entire book on "zombie ideas": certain things that come up over and over again, often over several decades, but will not die; Arguing with Zombies:

* https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324005018

* https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/03/arguing-with-z...

* https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/review-...

There are correct answers. It's just that certain political classes find them 'inconvenient' (i.e., contradictory) to their ideologies.

There are of course complicated matters where things are open for debate. But some things have been settled.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by refurb on Sunday March 14, 2021 @11:36AM (#26456234)
That’s not proof at all. There is nothing that says the printing of money in 2008 had to lead to immediate inflation and in fact we’ve seen the prices of some things (real estate?) go up astronomically the past 13 years.

In economics you’re right until suddenly you’re not. Same thing with people like Peter Schaffer who was constantly wrong until he wasn’t.

But all of this doesn’t make economics a science with undeniable rules as to how the system works.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by Supermancho on Sunday March 14, 2021 @12:02PM (#26456402)
> There is nothing that says the printing of money in 2008 had to lead to immediate inflation

Few thing HAVE to happen. That being said, much of human behavior is linear optimization, which is predictable if you know the rules (and they don't change).

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by throw0101a on Sunday March 14, 2021 @02:19PM (#26457435)
> There is nothing that says the printing of money in 2008 had to lead to immediate inflation

Which is exactly what Keynesians were saying. The Monetarists said otherwise. Guess who was right?

> and in fact we’ve seen the prices of some things (real estate?) go up astronomically the past 13 years.

Those "things" which have risen in price does not count as inflation. It has never counted as inflation. There is a different word that should be used for that phenomenon:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_bubble

I do not understand why this is difficult to understand: inflation/CPI is the cost of goods and services that are used on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. Asset prices are not one of those things.

Please stop using "inflation" when it comes to asset prices, as it does not apply. It's like pointing to a Boeing 787 and saying "boat".

> In economics you’re right until suddenly you’re not.

In economics, at least "good" economics, there are models. These models describe reality: some models are better than others. We should follow the ones that make (more) accurate predictions.

Keynesian models (for example) had problems with stagflation in the early 1970s, but by 1978 most text books had explanation as to why the earlier models broke down, and why the phenomenon occurred in the first place:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagflation#Neo-Keynesianism

Some folks' models said inflation would occur from money printing post-2008; others' models said it was not. One group was right, and the other was wrong.

Similarly: a bunch of folks are worried about inflation after the US Congress passed the $1.9T rescue plan, others are not. This is an(other) experiment in which some folks will be right, and others wrong.

Whose model best/better describes (economic) reality?

AFAICT, the Keynesians have been right more than any other school of though. I'm sure they may/will be wrong at some point, but hopefully something will be learned and models improved.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by deepnotderp on Sunday March 14, 2021 @08:24PM (#26461110)
> “ Those "things" which have risen in price does not count as inflation. It has never counted as inflation.”

I’m sorry you’re homeless, but it technically doesn’t count as inflation!

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by chii on Sunday March 14, 2021 @08:48PM (#26461277)
if one is homeless, it's not really due to inflation, but due to their productivity not keeping up. Globalization has moved manual labour and low skilled labour away from the USA, and those people affected were not given help to re-skill into other work, and most have to move to providing low-skill services (like hospitality, casuals etc), which is notoriously low pay.

Blaming inflation (or how inflation is calculated) for a societal problem is a distraction.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by throw0101a on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @09:21PM (#26498827)
Shelter is in the CPI.
Re:Why inflation is not a threat by refurb on Sunday March 14, 2021 @08:15PM (#26461030)
Housing is in the CPI and although it’s an asset it also a part of inflation. You’re being to pedantic with the term.