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Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by krapp on Saturday March 13, 2021 @08:09PM (#26451790)
>and his criticism of the raise of (Maoist) Posmodernism in academia

I'm sorry but in a country where people call Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton communists without a hint of irony I can't help but at roll my eyes at such a premise.

Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by alecco on Saturday March 13, 2021 @08:42PM (#26452008)
This was 30 years ago. And Chomsky is far left. I’m not. I like to read far and wide, as long as it’s not propaganda. Older works tend to be better.
Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by sudosysgen on Sunday March 14, 2021 @12:03AM (#26452934)
Have you read enough to realize that Maoism is incompatible with postmodernism?
Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by abalone on Saturday March 13, 2021 @10:00PM (#26452410)
This is a completely reasonable and realistic premise. Within the Left community there are plenty of Marxist-Leninist academics and there was a significant overlap with postmodernists, perhaps owing to its roots in the Parisian intellectual scene. Chomsky is a Libertarian Socialist.
Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by sudosysgen on Sunday March 14, 2021 @12:04AM (#26452937)
Marxist-Leninst academics are quite ferociously opposed to Postmodernists - postmodernism is completely incompatible with Marxist intellectual frameworks which are thoroughly modernist.

It's not a reasonable and realistic premise - it's word salad trying to scare.

Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by a0-prw on Sunday March 14, 2021 @08:03AM (#26454631)
> It's not a reasonable and realistic premise - it's word salad trying to scare.

Thank you for that, sir :) True and funny at the same time.

Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by alecco on Sunday March 14, 2021 @09:04AM (#26455034)
Many of those self proclaimed Postmodernists have Che Guevara t-shirts and portraits of Mao, unironically. What they say does not match what they actually support and do.
Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by tsimionescu on Sunday March 14, 2021 @08:41AM (#26454844)
Can you find a single marxist-leninist who is also a postmodernist??

Postmodernism rejects any theories of the world that have any kind of absolute structure, while marxism is explicitly about defining such absolutes. In marxism, all people are either workers or capitalists (or outside the system); any good has an intrinsic value, and any work has an intrinsic plus-value; and on and on.

You can also see this in the art favored by countries which liked to claim to be marxist-leninist (though they weren't). Far from being post-modern, it was in fact traditionalist and realist.

Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by abalone on Sunday March 14, 2021 @03:13PM (#26457951)
Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by tsimionescu on Sunday March 14, 2021 @03:39PM (#26458211)
As far as I can tell, she is a postmodernist who started out as a Marxist, but has later abandoned it. At the very least, it doesn't seem to have had any prominence in her works, which are focused on personal psychology and feminist theory.

I do admit that I may be completely off base, I know very little of her beyond what I could find on Wikipedia (which does list her as Marxist, but provides no further insight on why) and a handful of scholarly articles.

Note: a much better example you could have given was Slavoj Žižek, to which I have no answer..

Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by a0-prw on Sunday March 14, 2021 @07:40AM (#26454516)
Chomsky identifies himself as an anarchist not a "libertarian socialist".
Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by abalone on Sunday March 14, 2021 @02:59PM (#26457811)
Here is Chomsky describing what Libertarian Socialism is, how such a highly organized society would be constructed, and that it is “traditional anarchism” while noting that “anarchism” is a broad term.[1]

[1] https://youtu.be/b3m4aRQ9QvQ

Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by alecco on Sunday March 14, 2021 @09:01AM (#26455020)
This is correct. On paper he identifies as anarcho-sindicalist. But in mainstream terms "libertarian socialist" would be easier to understand.

On the other hand, Chomsky supported many socialist and even marxist leaders. Like Chavez nationalizing every profitable sector of the economy. Note this is very not anarchist as it concentrates power in the state and a rulin elite. Perhaps he was blinded by his anti-war and anti Western establishment feelings. Who knows.

Re:Chomsky – The Machine, the Ghost and the Limits of Unders... by a0-prw on Sunday March 14, 2021 @11:04AM (#26455983)
Of course he "supported many socialist and even marxist leaders". That's often been the direction to go to support actual, suffering, real people practically. It doesn't mean he thinks that's the ideal. Yes, compromises are made constantly.