UBI removes massive amounts of gov't bureaucracy in the bloated and disjointed safety net programs in the US and the bloated gov't salaries of the people running them.

It's actually a small gov't conservatives dream.

I would need proof of that claim. As it has been proposed UBI is in addition to existing welfare programs. We cant even pay for the current budget. How are we supposed to add more?

UBI is a social safety net, the goal is for it to replace those other social safety net programs.

Replacing other social safety net programs is not how UBI has been proposed. It has been sold as a guaranteed income for all. Not once has discontinuing other social safety net programs been included in UBI proposals. It is always "we could replace all programs with UBI". If the end of other programs is not included in a UBI bill then we will end up with both... forever.

So, I will ask again. We can't afford what we have. How can we add more?

We can afford the current social safety net we have pretty easily.

We spend around 2.3T to entitlement programs and takes in around 3.8T.

What's putting us in debt is massive tax cuts for the rich and insane health care costs.

I don't think there's been a comprehensive bill for UBI floated yet.

> We can afford the current social safety net we have pretty easily.

Really? Taxes havent covered the budget in years.

Correction: 2 decades

I didn't realize all 4 trillion of our budget went to paying for social safety nets!

That's news to me thanks for making me aware!

People on this website are so smart!

I didn't imply that at all. If the government already can't pay their bills then adding anything to the budget should be untenable until the deficit is covered.