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Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by ClumsyPilot on Thursday March 11, 2021 @11:14AM (#26425591)
People who code still make mistakes. There's got to be an override of some sort
Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by NikolaeVarius on Thursday March 11, 2021 @11:47AM (#26426040)
The override is missing the droneship or blowing itself up.

Why the hell does there "got" to be an override. Humans are generally not good at doing hypersonic/supersonic aerodynamic modeling in their heads, especially remotely

Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by matmatmatmat on Thursday March 11, 2021 @03:39PM (#26428749)
`The override is missing the droneship or blowing itself up.` Disagree, that's not an override. That's a program written by a human programmer (who makes mistakes) that autonomously decides that something went wrong.

I would argue there has "got" to be an override precisely because humans make mistakes all the time and so there's no reason to think that an autonomous failsafe should work in all possible situations.

I don't know much about rocketry, but if it's true that there's no remote abort capability, that seems like a deeply misguided decision.

Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by NikolaeVarius on Thursday March 11, 2021 @04:09PM (#26429034)
>> I don't know much about rocketry

There you go.

You are welcome to try and disagree with decades of rocket launch practices.

The range safety officer can blow up the rocket if the rocket veers off and is in danger of overshooting the safe area.

Otherwise, you know the reason why we launch over water? Since it doesn't goddamn matter after it clears the tower and clears the danger zone. It either blows up over water, and who cares, it lands in the water, who cares, or it blows up in the upper atmosphere, and who cares.

Also, the rocket blowing itself up is a reference to the fact that if it is going off course, there is damn good chance it will destroy itself since aerodynamic forces are calculated to a specific launch window with upper weather. If not following a calculated path, good chance it will rip itself apart.

Also many abort modes are disabled for the first few seconds in flight so a dumb human or computer wont accidentally trigger a abort after flight starts and blow up the launch pad

Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by matmatmatmat on Thursday March 11, 2021 @06:38PM (#26430443)
>> You are welcome to try and disagree with decades of rocket launch practices.

>> The range safety officer can blow up the rocket if the rocket veers off and is in danger of overshooting the safe area.

I'm confused. Am I not the one arguing for a remote abort command (which, so far as I know, has been standard practice for a while) and you, above, argue that rockets don't need one because humans are bad at modeling rocket aerodynamics?

Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by bigiain on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:59PM (#26431795)
> The override is missing the droneship or blowing itself up.

What if "missing the drone ship" means "hitting Chicago"?

I'm somewhat surprised to hear that there may not be a functional remote abort mechanism.

Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by Denvercoder9 on Friday March 12, 2021 @08:58PM (#26443203)
> What if "missing the drone ship" means "hitting Chicago"?

It doesn't and never will. The rocket is never on a trajectory that will hit Chicago (or any other populated area). The splashdown point of the ballistic trajectory is always over the ocean, until the final burn puts it on the drone ship or landing pad. If that burn doesn't happen for whatever reason, it crashes in the ocean (and that has happened in the past).

Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by ric2b on Thursday March 11, 2021 @06:29PM (#26430383)
I don't know, if it launches sideways and starts heading for a crowd they might want to force it to blow itself up or something like that.
Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by daniellarusso on Thursday March 11, 2021 @11:54AM (#26426151)
SSH into the rocket and restart services?
Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by codeduck on Thursday March 11, 2021 @02:26PM (#26427939)
> kubectl rollout restart deploy spacex-falcon9
Re:Receiving SpaceX Falcon 9 Telemetry with a HackRF and 1.2... by numpad0 on Friday March 12, 2021 @05:29AM (#26434156)
> kill -9 1