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Re:You don’t need all that complex/expensive/distracting inf... by Spooky23 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @10:38AM (#26425131)
Another factor is the operating model.

People bitching about K8S, systemd, etc miss the point that these systems allow a qualified generalist ops admin pop in and fix stuff without knowing the app well.

For a little company with <500 servers, it doesn’t matter. As size and complexity increase, figuring out how the guy left last year setup FreeBSD becomes a liability.

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Re:You don’t need all that complex/expensive/distracting inf... by nmfisher on Thursday March 11, 2021 @10:48AM (#26425251)
Man, I didn't realize 500 servers was still "little company" level!
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Re:You don’t need all that complex/expensive/distracting inf... by marcosdumay on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:08PM (#26426325)
That surfaces a very important communication problem. If you consider 500 servers a "small datacenter", then, of course, you will say that K8S adds value to small operations.
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Re:You don’t need all that complex/expensive/distracting inf... by Spooky23 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @11:06AM (#26425488)
Marginal cost for servers is very small, and with containers, etc, they multiply like bunnies.

Many of our devs are running 8-15 VMs just for their dev work. Depending on what you do and how, it’s easy to hockey stick the count!

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Re:You don’t need all that complex/expensive/distracting inf... by greggyb on Thursday March 11, 2021 @11:08AM (#26425523)
A qualified generalist ops admin should be productive on any modern UNIX or UNIX-like within a couple weeks.

Figuring out how the guy last year set up FreeBSD consists of similar effort and process as figuring out how the guy last year set up Debian or CentOS or SUSE.

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Re:You don’t need all that complex/expensive/distracting inf... by Spooky23 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:28PM (#26426592)
It can be challenging. I basically bought my house based on figuring that out for people in the old days.

It’s not an issue with FreeBSD or anything per se. Usually there’s a genius superhero guy who does whatever, who burns out/quits/otherwise goes away, and the business is stuck.

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Re:You don’t need all that complex/expensive/distracting inf... by greggyb on Friday March 12, 2021 @09:25AM (#26436126)
I think we're agreeing past each other.

In this sort of sample scenario, it's not the platform, but the person who did crazy weird things -- things that they can do with any platform.

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