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Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by yakubin on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:42AM (#26423896)
1. There is no link in the article to the zip file.

2. Searching for open3A in duckduckgo brings me to a page that spits out PHP errors and doesn't give me anything.

3. The only way that I now know where the zip file is, is because another commenter linked to it.

4. We've seen companies disguise something as open-source, when it wasn't.

5. Open source is commonly hard-to-sell.

So no, it wasn't 10 seconds to verify and the author didn't make it particularly easy to do so. My doubts are completely natural, given past news in "open-source". Are you commenting in bad faith?

Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by prepend on Thursday March 11, 2021 @01:06PM (#26427033)
It definitely could be easier.

I searched for “open3A” via Google (not ddg, but if I got errors on ddg, I would try “!open3a”) and the first hit is a German site. I don’t speak German, but I saw the download link [0] and downloaded the first zip and viewed the license.

I spent more time downloading the 4mb zip than clicking on stuff.

It’s not the author’s job to make answering my questions easy. It is my job to not make easily verifiable claims without trying.

I’ve dealt with lots of projects that are crappy about licenses and frequently have to download the tarball to look for licenses, just to check if I can actually use.

The author could make this easier, but she didn’t. That doesn’t mean I should go into attack mode because other people make bad claims. (And I suppose I give up after 10 seconds and don’t want to stick around for 20 seconds)

I also noticed that author doesn’t even link to her project. Maybe it’s because her project is in German and the blog is English. But I’d rather have more posts like this with whatever time the author can spend, than wait for it to sit in draft while unimportant details are finally added.

[0] https://www.open3a.de/page-Download

Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by nemiah on Thursday March 11, 2021 @03:00PM (#26428336)
My intention with this blog post was only to write down my story. No marketing intended :)
Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by prepend on Thursday March 11, 2021 @07:09PM (#26430682)
Thanks, I thought it was kind of refreshing how you weren’t linking to your site and liked to see content that didn’t just seem like seo or a sales pitch.
Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by nemiah on Friday March 12, 2021 @01:13AM (#26432668)
I have no need for doing sales pitches anymore :D
Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by renewiltord on Thursday March 11, 2021 @11:59AM (#26426219)
Fascinating. I consider myself to have reasonable mastery of my tools and I usually pick good tools for my purposes.

Here's a re-enactment of how I detected the license: https://i.imgur.com/Gr4xMT5.mp4

It's near trivially easy.

Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by nemiah on Thursday March 11, 2021 @03:02PM (#26428351)
Funny to see you do that on my website :D
Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by la_fayette on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:36PM (#26426675)
Haha so cool!
Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by prepend on Thursday March 11, 2021 @01:07PM (#26427049)
Did you record that with lice cap?
Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by renewiltord on Thursday March 11, 2021 @01:14PM (#26427118)
I used the Quicktime Player screen-record feature in OS X. Though thanks for the rec.

Here's another one I like when I want my face and audio in: Screenity https://github.com/alyssaxuu/screenity (very easy code to work with too).

Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by II2II on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:48AM (#26424534)
There is a trail of links from the article that will bring you to the download. Click on the author's name to see their profile, click on the project to see the project's profile, click on the link to the project website, then click on the link to the downloads page. While the trail is a bit much, it is important to keep in mind the article was an account of the author's experiences and it published on a portal for indie developers. A direct link may not have been seen as appropriate given the context.

While I agree with companies misrepresenting their products as open source as being a problem and believe the AGPL should have been mentioned, I do not see how the point about open source being hard to sell as being relevant. Not only are there are success stories in the world of open source, but the author made their success sound modest.

Re:How I earn a living selling my open-source web-based invo... by touggourt on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:13AM (#26424193)
Basicaly you are just explaining that you've just done a very quick search. Fact that Duckduckgo doesn't gives the right answer an the first page is not an excuse. Actually, DDG printed a lots of comparison pages of business application for me, so I changed my search string, tried elsewhere, searched on indiehackers.com where she writed the post. This is more completely natural that becoming suspicious from nothing.

BTW typing only "open3A" in DDG gaves me the right answers all on the first page.