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Re:New England Almost Seceded over the War of 1812 (2012) by sandworm101 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @03:37PM (#26415871)
Remember too that the navy only really pressed seamen. They were not kidnapping landmen onto ships. They were after skilled people. A person who had completed a voyage or two was a valuable asset, as opposed to a farmer who would be far more of a liability onboard a navy ship.

And for all the horrors described about life in the royal navy, it was often far better than life in the country. You got food. You were a member of a crew with rights and privileges. A laborer in farm country, or in a mine, was much worse off.

Re:New England Almost Seceded over the War of 1812 (2012) by elmomle on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @03:48PM (#26416011)
Beware any statement that suggests something like "this form of forced labor wasn't so bad". If it was decent work then people would do it without being kidnapped. Involuntary enslavement, whether permanent or temporary, is a terrible thing.
Re:New England Almost Seceded over the War of 1812 (2012) by thaumasiotes on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @09:27PM (#26419458)
> If it was decent work then people would do it without being kidnapped.

This doesn't really follow from the description in your parent comment, which claims that being impressed is worse than being a free sailor but better than being a free peasant. The logical conclusion from that is not that sailors would be lining up for Navy jobs if the Navy couldn't enslave them.

> Involuntary enslavement, whether permanent or temporary, is a terrible thing.

This point is more interesting. Note that the military is generally still enslaved today; leaving and disobeying are both illegal. The modern US military is not involuntarily enslaved, but it is voluntarily enslaved.

Should other employers also be allowed to employ voluntary slaves?

Re:New England Almost Seceded over the War of 1812 (2012) by sandworm101 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @03:52PM (#26416061)
And beware of saying that military service is horrible simply because men are drafted into it during time of war. Some of us have chosen that life.
Re:New England Almost Seceded over the War of 1812 (2012) by lucasmullens on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @04:13PM (#26416334)
Having a draft is terrible, and I'm grateful I never lived through one. It's just the lesser of two evils in some cases.
Re:New England Almost Seceded over the War of 1812 (2012) by brianxp on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @04:57PM (#26416844)
They used to force people into draft here in Colombia.

From my personal point of view the Colombian army is terrible, if one of their own combatants get shot in combat, they kill him and dress him in a uniform that resembles the one wore by guerrilla.

A week ago they bombed 8 kids and dressed them as guerrilla fighters [1] and it is suspected about two million people were killed in the last 20 years by the Colombian army.

My family belongs to a long line military and police men, so I get to know beforehand the new ways in which they are benchmarked. During the 2004 till 2012 administration the military and police men were required to have certain amount of blood liters per month [2].

1: https://colombiareports.com/duque-presented-bombed-minors-an...

2: https://washingtonmemo.wordpress.com/2012/06/13/colombia-the...