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Re:Israel’s lucrative and secretive cybersurveillance industry by helge9210 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @03:57PM (#26404130)
> Ah, so it's perfectly acceptable to you when rockets hit some Israeli cities, where the poorer Israelis live.

If it's acceptable for them, who am I to judge?

Election after election they vote for the party (Likud) that does consider Hamas a viable partner, transfers them hundreds of millions USD in cash and refuses to support any alternative government in Gaza.

Re:Israel’s lucrative and secretive cybersurveillance industry by NeverFade on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:13PM (#26404344)
Nations rise and fall based on a sense of common identity, solidarity, and shared fate.

Your comment revealed the complete breakdown of these necessary elements.

As someone who has enormous sympathy for the suffering of the Jewish people, and Israel as a response to that, I do hope that there are very few of you in Israel.

Otherwise, Israel will disintegrate, and you will discover that when you demonstrate smug selfish indifference to rockets hitting your fellow citizens, those same rockets will eventually hit you too.

Re:Israel’s lucrative and secretive cybersurveillance industry by helge9210 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:24PM (#26404477)
> for the suffering of the Jewish people, and Israel as a response to that

You do understand, that Israel was established by people, who didn't suffer in Holocaust, but still demanded retribution from Arabs, who weren't responsible for Holocaust, right?

A lot of Holocaust survivors were afraid to admit it until 90-ties for the reason they were considered sub-humans by fellow Israelis.

> sense of common identity

Please, be kind and explain to me, what common identity can be between me, secular son of Ashkenazi Jew, and minister Deri, Moroccan Arab of Jewish religion, who considers my father as good as dead since he married my non-jewish mother?

Re:Israel’s lucrative and secretive cybersurveillance industry by Apocryphon on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @03:48PM (#26404003)
Given the incredibly polarized state of American politics and society over the past decade, especially the last five years, I don't think that comparison is as true as it was twenty years ago. Probably not the most cogent comparison these days.
Re:Israel’s lucrative and secretive cybersurveillance industry by NeverFade on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:01PM (#26404186)
American society has polarized, it is true. Still, I believe only a tiny fringe minority will openly claim indifference to the WTC attacks because they haven't affected them personally. Much less show any support for the terrorists who committed these attacks.
Re:Israel’s lucrative and secretive cybersurveillance industry by Apocryphon on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:03PM (#26404223)
At this point it's not even indifference, it's more like animosity between different regions and different segments of society. When was the last time anyone stormed the Knesset?
Re:Israel’s lucrative and secretive cybersurveillance industry by NeverFade on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:17PM (#26404388)
Do you live in the US? I do.

The US is home to 350,000,000 people. If you gather the craziest of these in one small place, you'll have enough force to storm a (poorly defended) Capitol.

The US always had various fringe, a-social and anti-social groups. Still, Americans do largely share a sense of identity, especially against a common external threat. To judge by some of the comments here, perhaps to a greater extent than Israeli society currently does.

Re:Israel’s lucrative and secretive cybersurveillance industry by Apocryphon on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:39PM (#26404668)
Netanyahu has been PM for over a decade, is that really accurate?