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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by gumby on Monday March 08, 2021 @06:40PM (#26393190)
In Japan, programming / software development has always been a blue collar job.
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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by tabtab on Monday March 08, 2021 @08:11PM (#26394041)
Societal status aside, how does it pay?
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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by gumby on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @12:46AM (#26395828)
Programer wages are very low.

I'm not sure they are even higher at SCE (Playstation), Nintendo, Bandai or Sega; but at least the people at those companies look happy and like they are having some fun. Actually, happier than the people working at the AAA houses in the USA.

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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by emodendroket on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @05:35PM (#26405357)
Probably not. https://gamerant.com/playstation-japan-studio-downsizing/

From what I've read the more traditional Japanese way to think about it is that you want to get onto the management track ASAP if you've got any sense.

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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by redis_mlc on Monday March 08, 2021 @09:28PM (#26394699)
Very low - possibly the lowest of any engineering job, since software is not considered engineering in Japan.

Also, most employees have to buy their own notebook computers, so you see Windows thickies from the 90s.

Source: worked in Tokyo doing field work for 2 months at a major corporation.

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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by webmaven on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @12:34PM (#26401196)
> Very low - possibly the lowest of any engineering job, since software is not considered engineering in Japan.

So what does the (private industry) career path for a CS graduate look like? Or do all the folks who want to study something computer-related end up as EEs?

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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by fomine3 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @01:27AM (#26396023)
It tend to especially on traditional companies, but YMMV. I believe very few traditional company allow BYOD.
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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by PurpleFoxy on Monday March 08, 2021 @10:41PM (#26395190)
Sounds like it could be a contributing factor to the fact that outside of game dev, there doesn’t seem to be any Japanese made software.
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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by gumby on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @12:43AM (#26395806)
What do you mean? There's an enormous amount, in cameras, robots, phones, automobiles and all sorts of electronics.
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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by PurpleFoxy on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @04:27AM (#26396959)
Firmware and embedded software always feels like it was built in a software sweatshop and not really a priority.
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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by fomine3 on Tuesday March 09, 2021 @01:28AM (#26396030)
True but software/firmware on such device is tend to considered to second citizen.
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Re:Tech companies say they can’t find good employees – compa... by selimthegrim on Thursday March 11, 2021 @01:43AM (#26421028)
"...on such a device/on such devices tends to be considered a second-class citizen"
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