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Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by burkaman on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:26AM (#26387468)
Doesn't Ethereum have the same environmental issues?
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by mumblemumble on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:27AM (#26387505)
They're moving toward PoS, which should help with that: https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms...
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by Ceezy on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:33AM (#26387610)
They are talking about POS in ethereum since years.
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by wcoenen on Monday March 08, 2021 @12:01PM (#26388093)
The recent activation of the beacon chain (and ether staking on it) means that they're committed to proof of stake now. All currently staked ether would be stranded otherwise.

https://ethereum.org/en/eth2/docking/

Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by kristofferR on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:41AM (#26387765)
Yeah, duh, it's not like it's a small project:

https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/133392262085774540...

It's pretty bad that Bitcoin still hasn't started working on it.

Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by ChrisClark on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:39AM (#26387726)
And now the PoS chain has already launched and been working great. Next step is just to move the PoW chain to it. But they are definitely going slowly and safely. And it is definitely a slow process. :(
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by tarsinge on Monday March 08, 2021 @12:02PM (#26388118)
The v2 POS is live, but the complete migration of the v1 chain will take one or two years: https://ethereum.org/en/eth2/
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by bouncycastle on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:47AM (#26387859)
Their mainnet PoS network went live last december. The aim is to turn off PoW next year.
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by serverholic on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:35AM (#26387657)
Ethereum is already transitioning to proof-of-stake which has a number of benefits including much lower power usage. I'm so tired of people equating bitcoin with all cryptocurrencies.
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by HideousKojima on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:27AM (#26387493)
Ethereum is supposedly changing over to proof of stake, but it's been a years long process
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by BTCOG on Monday March 08, 2021 @01:08PM (#26389247)
Love that username! XD

Yes, Ethereum has been working towards several long-tail projects for years. I think it's more important to distinguish that nothing good or important has come of Ethereum though, and that it is NOT money, and it is not a safe currency. The blockchain is fraught with front-ran txs, the mining is very centralized, and all projects atop ETH suffer dependency on it's success. The blockchain is growing very large which leads to further centralization on very expensive customized equipment. DeFi is a buzzword that means little but "super alpha experimental money leveraging tools" and financial instruments on the cutting edge. Ethereum is Dave & Busters tokens in comparison to Bitcoin being real money.

Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by capableweb on Monday March 08, 2021 @03:23PM (#26391004)
> more important to distinguish that nothing good or important has come of Ethereum though

I mean, Ethereum has the second largest marketcap of all cryptocurrencies and it feels like 80% of the research & development either comes from Ethereum directly or close-by ecosystems.

To say that Ethereum is Dave & Busters tokens when compared to Bitcoin is funny, since every single cryptocurrency is magic internet money anyway.

Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by DennisP on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:53AM (#26387958)
Right now it has >$5 billion staked and >100,000 validators on the PoS network. What remains is to transition the rest of the network and eliminate miners, which is a relatively simple process.
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by neither_color on Monday March 08, 2021 @12:22PM (#26388447)
>eliminate miners Yes please. Ive been trying for weeks to buy a gpu.
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by jweir on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:32AM (#26387589)
Come on - you’d say the same thing about the freeway that plowed through some wonderful neighborhoods and blights us with noise and pollution. It’s all good. Cars are going electric, Ethereum is going to become efficient - problem solved. /s
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by gnrlst on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:27AM (#26387500)
Yes. Ethereum 2.0 "promises" to fix most of them though. We'll see.
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by meddlepal on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:27AM (#26387496)
Not once Proof of Stake is adopted next year (hopefully).
Re:Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet by throwaway4good on Monday March 08, 2021 @11:47AM (#26387860)
Worse as it is specifically designed to run on GPUs.

They would like to switch to proof of stake and plan to do so next year.