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Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by taylorlapeyre on Saturday March 06, 2021 @08:45PM (#26372354)
If you’re imagining crime and homelessness, that’s not exactly what I mean by “weirdness” – those are problems that San Francisco needs to fix... and will probably always need to fix.
Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by thatguy0900 on Saturday March 06, 2021 @08:52PM (#26372391)
I mean Noone here is complaining about about having too many quirky stores. They are complaining about crime and homelessness. I don't think you're perspective is that different from them on what makes the city good,you just don't care as much about the bad.
Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by setpatchaddress on Saturday March 06, 2021 @08:50PM (#26372379)
SF’s homeless problem is out of control in a way that it isn’t in most large cities. You can’t say “that’s just life”.
Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by mleonhard on Saturday March 06, 2021 @10:56PM (#26373003)
SF's homeless problem is the US's homeless problem. Talk to people camping on the sidewalk and each one will tell you a different story, but with common themes: horrible home situation in a different state, crime -> prison -> loss of work opportunity, depression & drug abuse. These are suffering people that the American People have decided to let suffer. Yes, SF has enough money to get them all off the streets and into housing and only does that for half of them. But SF doesn't deserve all the blame.
Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by taylorlapeyre on Saturday March 06, 2021 @08:58PM (#26372437)
I certainly never said that homelessness is “just life.” I’m just realistic. San Francisco will probably always have this problem to some extent, and it’s our responsibility as San Franciscans to help alleviate it as much as possible.

None of this has to do with my original point about San Francisco’s recent changes, which I have personally experienced as having a much higher density of artists.

Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by chrisseaton on Saturday March 06, 2021 @09:01PM (#26372461)
> San Francisco will probably always have this problem to some extent

But why?

Other cities don't. For example Liechtenstein has literally no homeless people in the entire country. They had to close their last homeless shelter... because it was empty.

Many other global cities have single-digit homeless per 100k population. Why does San Francisco have literally ten thousand homeless people and why are the numbers still growing?

"will probably always have this problem" is bat-shit insane.

Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by crooked-v on Saturday March 06, 2021 @09:28PM (#26372580)
As a country we've decided that the suitable response to children regularly being mass murdered in schools is to train children to expect being mass murdered in school. A similar abandonment on the subject of homeless is hardly surprising.
Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by pm90 on Saturday March 06, 2021 @10:04PM (#26372759)
To a certain extent, housing is a statewide problem (prop 13) which the city has limited power to address. To another extent, the lack of a National affordable healthcare program and support for people in duress amplifies the problem even further.

The city has also taken a more humane approach to dealing with the homeless rather than incarcerating or throwing them elsewhere. Most of the homeless suffer from drug/alcohol related issues and the city has tried different approaches to solving this problem.

Overall, it’s a confluence of many problems that makes it very difficult to “solve” the homelessness problem. Comparing to another city with different circumstances isn’t really helpful; they’re not facing the same situation.

Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by mcguire on Saturday March 06, 2021 @10:05PM (#26372762)
Liechtenstein has a population of 38,000. The median income is about $60,000. GDP per capita is $165,028.
Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by veggieburglar on Sunday March 07, 2021 @01:30AM (#26373681)
In their entire country of 38k people, which has the second highest GDP per capita in the world. There are a lot of comparisons one could make here, but this is not the strongest one.
Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by amptorn on Saturday March 06, 2021 @09:07PM (#26372489)
> will probably always need to fix.

Quitter.

Re:Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are le... by soulofmischief on Saturday March 06, 2021 @09:17PM (#26372534)
If I spent 40 hours a week fixing the same bug I'd be fired from my job.