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Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux by jandrese on Friday March 05, 2021 @02:17PM (#26360857)
Cheats themselves are basically rootkits, and you can't beat a rootkit when you are running on top of it. Anti-cheat pretty much has to be like this.

Server side enforcement is not only heavy, but has much of the same problems as the client side. It's running on a layer even higher than the client side anti-cheat. How can you tell if someone is running an aimbot or just has good aim? Sure if they do something outright impossible you could ban them, but heuristic approaches are going to have problems with false positives as well as false negatives.

Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux by shmerl on Friday March 05, 2021 @02:37PM (#26361096)
Server side doesn't violate user's system with rootkits. How to detect things with good level of correctness using server side AI is a good question. But it's a much better problem to solve than how to add even more privacy invasive malware on the user's system.

> How can you tell if someone is running an aimbot or just has good aim?

That's the point. I don't care. As long as the game is enjoyable. And I'm sure AI can be gradually trained to detect cheating in more sophisticated manner do differentiate non human from human patterns. Not a trivial issue, but something they should invest money in as above, instead of rootkits.

Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux by jandrese on Friday March 05, 2021 @02:52PM (#26361243)

  14:22:01 *Shmerl has joined the game
  14:22:02 [DefinitelyNotAnAimbot] headshots Shmerl
  14:22:05 [AnotherTotallyHumanPlayer] headshots Shmerl
  14:22:07 [DefinitelyNotAnAimbot] headshots Shmerl
  14:22:07 DefinitelyNotAnAimbot is on a killing spree!
  14:22:10 *Shmerl has left the server
Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux by shmerl on Friday March 05, 2021 @03:43PM (#26361825)
I already explained the idea above. Trade off of the server side AI detection is way better than client side rootkit idea. Neither is perfect, but the latter is outright disgusting and crooked.
Re:Valve's Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games on Linux by google234123 on Friday March 05, 2021 @06:03PM (#26363383)
This won't work very well for a free to play game.