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Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by tinus_hn on Friday March 05, 2021 @08:17AM (#26356495)
Pretty incredible people were able to use this device for anything at all; the base version with 1kb of memory barely had enough memory to contain the screen
Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by elvis70 on Friday March 05, 2021 @09:04AM (#26356943)
There is a chess game for this machine, with AI, and no RAM pack required! (David Horne's 1K Chess from 1982): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9151552
Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by colejohnson66 on Friday March 05, 2021 @07:02PM (#26363896)
Well, the Atari 2600 had a whopping one hundred and twenty eight bytes of RAM. 128 bytes. Literally just 7 address lines worth of data. (The cartridge has 12 address lines)
Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by tinus_hn on Friday March 05, 2021 @08:17PM (#26364343)
True, but that kind of computer runs code from ROM. The ZX81 ran Basic programs from that 1k of RAM.
Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by colejohnson66 on Monday March 08, 2021 @12:47PM (#26388905)
Ah! I forgot about that.
Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by forinti on Friday March 05, 2021 @08:45AM (#26356775)
It's not much but you could at least play around coding maths routines. I know that's what I would do. That would have some value for a student.
Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by beckyb on Friday March 05, 2021 @01:21PM (#26360041)
I got the US version of this machine for Christmas 1982. The manual that came with it had all of the Z80 opcodes listed and briefly explained. I learned a lot from that little machine.
Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by karmakaze on Friday March 05, 2021 @10:52AM (#26358184)
I was all set to buy the $50 self-assembled kit when my dad stopped me and said don't buy that, it's a toy. He didn't know anything about computers but was right anyway. Later I got an Atari 8-bit. I'm sure I would have done lots with the ZX81 and eventually moved up to one of the Atari, C64, Apple II. Good times. I got to use a Xerox CP/M machine a little while later that was decidedly more business-like.
Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by johnklos on Friday March 05, 2021 @11:55AM (#26359021)
What a naive view! By the same measure, all computers are toys, and since there's something apparently wrong with toys, all computers are bad.

Or - perhaps this is too enlightened - toys are useful for learning, and we should not limit ourselves to things which are solely chosen for being the least like a toy.

Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by nix23 on Friday March 05, 2021 @12:30PM (#26359433)
>By the same measure, all computers are toys,

Maybe..but with a keyboard (no! the ZX81 had no keyboard) and optional floppy's.

Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by karmakaze on Friday March 05, 2021 @02:42PM (#26361141)
Actually I think that was it! The size and keyboard wasn't even as good as a calculator of the day. I ultimately got the Atari 400 with membrane keyboard and my dad insisted I upgrade it with a third-party mechanical one that looked all-Frankenkeys sticking up out of the slim case. I liked the membrane keys, later Atari 400 manufacturing keys didn't come out as well as the early models--I had friends and stores' models to compare with.
Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by nix23 on Friday March 05, 2021 @03:29PM (#26361645)
Well my first computer was a secondhand C64 with lots of accessory's, i mean really a lot...a full blown c64 two disk-drives fast-load cartridge 100's of games joysticks everything!! My dad then say'd he needs a real computer an got a macintosh Lc2, and because he was old-school (one computer and one tv per household) i had to trash the c64, one would say an Lc2 is cool...yeah it was, but nearly zero games, all my friends with amigas and dos machines had more fun, i had myst, crystal quest and shufflepuck...and hypercard, photoshop and filemaker...oh and quark express...cool :(

EDIT: I forgot that i had IndianaJones3 too..what a cool game, probably even harder then myst.

Re:Sinclair ZX81 turns 40 today by karmakaze on Saturday March 06, 2021 @11:03AM (#26368279)
One computer! One TV? Too bad--having both a C64 and a Mac was unimaginable. A friend of mine had a Macintosh, we played Lode Runner on it for ages.