Honda's now selling the first production car with level 3 self-driving

Re:Honda's now selling the first production car with level 3... by adrr on Friday March 05, 2021 @05:35AM (#26355265)

Most accidents happen where Tesla autopilot isn’t being used like city driving and exiting and entering the freeway. Sitting in one lane on the freeway is the safest thing you can be doing and any car with lane centering and adaptive cruise control can do it. That’s why those numbers are a joke. I use autopilot everyday day on a 45 mile commute and my only accident is entering the freeway where my car and another car merged into the same lane.

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Re:Honda's now selling the first production car with level 3... by jiofih on Friday March 05, 2021 @08:54AM (#26356855)

Nothing better than A/B testing within the same population, right?

> In the 4th quarter, we registered one accident for every 3.45 million miles driven in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. For those driving without Autopilot but with our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 2.05 million miles driven. For those driving without Autopilot and without our active safety features, we registered one accident for every 1.27 million miles driven.

Even if you assume most accidents happen in that last group, city driving with AP off, that ratio (3.45:1.27) is better than the overall estimated proportion of city vs highway accidents for all vehicles, at 2.3:1. At a minimum, AP is making highway driving 10-20% safer, and obviously not causing any new city accidents when it’s off.

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Re:Honda's now selling the first production car with level 3... by adrr on Friday March 05, 2021 @10:41AM (#26358046)

AP doesn't switch lanes. SO you turn it off during these events. It's not an AB test since AP is used in a very specific scenario where a person driving is used in situations where AP is incapable of handling like dealing with a stalled vehicle on the road.

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