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Re:Female Founder Secrets: Fertility by blackguardx on Thursday March 04, 2021 @07:58PM (#26350947)
There has been various research about Earth's carrying capacity. The numbers are controversial but it shouldn't be controversial that there is _some_ limit.

I think we are going to have to adapt to a post-growth world. Or maybe things will grow in other ways. I am not worried about declining birth rates. It's not like we are heading for a "Children of Men" scenario. The population will stabilize before it goes to zero. Or maybe we will just grow people in vats.

Re:Female Founder Secrets: Fertility by rayiner on Thursday March 04, 2021 @11:08PM (#26352565)
> I think we are going to have to adapt to a post-growth world. Or maybe things will grow in other ways. I am not worried about declining birth rates. It's not like we are heading for a "Children of Men" scenario.

I'm not talking about endless growth. I'm talking about simply maintaining existing societies. The fertility rate in South Korea is now below 1. That's a society that's basically gone within three generations.

> The population will stabilize before it goes to zero.

Right--so what does society and culture look like then?

> Or maybe we will just grow people in vats.

We can't even fix male pattern baldness for god's sake.

Re:Female Founder Secrets: Fertility by blackguardx on Friday March 05, 2021 @01:46AM (#26353626)
>Right--so what does society and culture look like then?

Culture and societies change. No one can predict the future. If the population of South Korea goes down to 49 million (from 50 million today), why does that automatically mean that they will lose their culture?

>We can't even fix male pattern baldness for god's sake.

I'm sure we will fix that before the population gets to zero!

Re:Female Founder Secrets: Fertility by barry-cotter on Friday March 05, 2021 @10:06PM (#26364845)
> We can't even fix male pattern baldness for god's sake.

Elon Musk used to be bald. Now he’s not.

Re:Female Founder Secrets: Fertility by chromanoid on Thursday March 04, 2021 @08:13PM (#26351097)
> Or maybe we will just grow people in vats.

Who will raise the people who were made in vats? Which is the real problem here, not who reproduces.

Re:Female Founder Secrets: Fertility by barry-cotter on Friday March 05, 2021 @10:09PM (#26364855)
Pregnancy and childbirth are not wonderful experiences and there would definitely be an uptick in children per woman if you could get a baby without carrying it inside you for nine months and then pushing it out. How large the uptick would be I don’t know.
Re:Female Founder Secrets: Fertility by chromanoid on Saturday March 06, 2021 @03:40AM (#26366063)
> Pregnancy and childbirth are not wonderful experiences

I would say it depends. My wife would not want to miss it. Especially her first birth was indeed a wonderful experience. The second was too fast but still a wonderful experience.

Why children per woman? In such a world where humans grow in vats, it would be children per person...

Re:Female Founder Secrets: Fertility by arvinsim on Thursday March 04, 2021 @09:25PM (#26351733)
It's not about population, it's about culture.