Let me add some nitpicking to complete the obnoxious HN trifecta. The proper ortographic representation of etc is &c. In fact, that's where the ampersand comes from (think ligature form of Et).

I appreciated this, actually. It's funny how just being in a negative tree gets you downvoted by association--good thing it's just karma, eh?

To be fair, it's less that we're in a negative tree and more that we're not adding value to the discussion.

Yeah, but I didn't expect people to take it so _personally._

(Or maybe I do, but I unconsciously resent how serious we are and fight it by taking a few downvotes every so often.)