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Re:Imaginary Numbers May Be Essential for Describing Reality by dnautics on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @10:46AM (#26329883)
Nonsense. Just use a [[1 0] [0 -1]] matrix and it's kin and do away with "essential" imaginary numbers.
Re:Imaginary Numbers May Be Essential for Describing Reality by eigenket on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:00AM (#26330128)
The paper is describing a test of a particular alternative to quantum mechanics called "real quantum mechanics", its rather more specific than you are suggesting

https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.10873

I know a few of the people on that preprint, and I'm pretty certain they all know you can embed the complex numbers in the real 2x2 matrices ;)

As an aside I'm pretty sure the matrix you need is [[0,-1],[1,0]], which squares to -I, unless you don't want to use matrix multiplication in your construction.

Re:Imaginary Numbers May Be Essential for Describing Reality by pfortuny on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @12:33PM (#26331691)
I have read the introduction (only cursorily). What bothers me is that they may be conflating

C as C-vector space, which is R (as R-vector space) tensor C (complex dim 1).

with

R^2 as R-vector space, tensored by C (complex dim 2).

Because when they "add a real qubit", they seem to be adding a degree of freedom which you do not have when you have just one C-qubit.

But -I repeat- I have only looked over the intro.

Re:Imaginary Numbers May Be Essential for Describing Reality by eigenket on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @01:01PM (#26332130)
This comment seems to have been cut off before the end?
Re:Imaginary Numbers May Be Essential for Describing Reality by pfortuny on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @02:13PM (#26332976)
Oh sorry. It was a repeat which I did not notice.
Re:Imaginary Numbers May Be Essential for Describing Reality by dnautics on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:51AM (#26330991)
as I was writing that matrix out from memory I was thinking there was something funny... Thank you for correcting me.
Re:Imaginary Numbers May Be Essential for Describing Reality by gspr on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:03AM (#26330186)
No. You've just reinvented them. Writing something differently and giving it a different name doesn't do away with that something.
Re:Imaginary Numbers May Be Essential for Describing Reality by GoblinSlayer on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:29AM (#26330628)
That's the point, in mathematics you can model the same object in many different ways save for trivial transformations.