Re:What’s Wrong with “Multiplication Is Repeated Addition”? ...
by Rerarom on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:28AM
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This is just set theory, not category theory.
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Re:What’s Wrong with “Multiplication Is Repeated Addition”? ...
by Garlef on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:32AM
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Neither is more foundational than the other. So I think the use of "just" is not justified here.
https://mathoverflow.net/questions/360578/category-theory-an...
Re:What’s Wrong with “Multiplication Is Repeated Addition”? ...
by eigenket on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:39AM
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Yeah but your comment didn't use the concept of a "category" at all, whereas you used "set" three times. Its definitely more natural to say these definitions come from set theory.
Re:What’s Wrong with “Multiplication Is Repeated Addition”? ...
by Garlef on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:57AM
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To me, "disjoint union", "direct product" and "set of maps" (as a special case of "internal hom") are the central keywords in what I wrote: Concepts from category theory.
Re:What’s Wrong with “Multiplication Is Repeated Addition”? ...
by eigenket on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:07AM
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Those keywords all appeared in the context of set theory long before category theory was thought of.
Even ignoring that as a historical accident (we invented set theory before category theory), those ideas are all natural, meaningful and interesting to examine in the context of sets even if one has never heard of a category.
Re:What’s Wrong with “Multiplication Is Repeated Addition”? ...
by spekcular on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @10:46AM
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Yes, there's no need to invoke any category theory concepts here. Everything is happening in the category of sets.
Re:What’s Wrong with “Multiplication Is Repeated Addition”? ...
by spekcular on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @10:57AM
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First, that's not what your link says. (See, e.g., the comments to the first answer.)
Second, I find that claim highly dubious. To do metamathematics and talk about the relative strength of various axiomatic systems, you need to talk about large cardinals. So that, at least to me, seems like a good argument that set theory is foundational to mathematics in a way that category theory is not, since the latter has no non-eliminable place in the (study of) contemporary foundations of mathematics.