Sir Kazuo Ishiguro warns of young authors self-censoring out of 'fear'

Re:Sir Kazuo Ishiguro warns of young authors self-censoring ... by IAmWorried on Monday March 01, 2021 @06:26PM (#26309932)

Honestly, it's viewpoints like yours that I despise the most. We have innocent people losing their careers with no due process, just mob justice, and what do you people do? "Oh, republicans did it 30 years ago, so any criticism is invalid." Honestly, F that. I was never even alive for what you are talking about. How about we try to build a better society where people don't lose their jobs for their views, rather than pursue some sadistic version of "payback" towards the right for what they did 30 years ago?

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Re:Sir Kazuo Ishiguro warns of young authors self-censoring ... by vmladenov on Monday March 01, 2021 @06:35PM (#26310016)

Moral policing is a far older struggle than a recent US-centric partisan squabble. I’m with you in that I wish more people held liberal values, but reducing a complex, entrenched cultural phenomenon present throughout human history to such a myopic view of the present isn’t likely to improve the situation you’re concerned about.

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Re:Sir Kazuo Ishiguro warns of young authors self-censoring ... by KittenInABox on Monday March 01, 2021 @06:33PM (#26309994)

I think this person isn't saying it's fine. They're pointing out that the outrage about this is dissociated from the fact that this has been a longstanding problem and therefore likely has significantly deeper issues than the surface-level symptoms (eg. self-censorship).

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Re:Sir Kazuo Ishiguro warns of young authors self-censoring ... by WillPostForFood on Monday March 01, 2021 @07:11PM (#26310300)

Pointing out one incident almost 20 years ago isn't evidence of a long standing problem. The world is a different place with social media today, making the problem both more widespread, and more damaging to people. There have always been boycotts and attempts at cancellation, but the power of the mob is amplified in the current moment.

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Re:Sir Kazuo Ishiguro warns of young authors self-censoring ... by KittenInABox on Monday March 01, 2021 @07:17PM (#26310344)

Multiple incidents were pointed out, and I legitimately don't know if it's more damaging today than it was before. This is a country that burned black wall street to the ground over an accusation. I actually, seriously don't know if the problem is more widespread or more damaging given the history in the USA.

I will say it is most certainly a problem, and I think it likely has much deeper roots than "social media exists, only now are people being hurt by mob mentality". It may be that social media only makes mob mentality more obvious to people, so now everyone is aware of it. But then the problem is why did we ever develop mob mentality in the first place....

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Re:Sir Kazuo Ishiguro warns of young authors self-censoring ... by WillPostForFood on Thursday March 04, 2021 @12:03PM (#26344925)

They edited in a second example after my comment. But it is a telling edit, they clearly looked for a second example, and the one they found is in no way a good one. There was no mob rallying against that professor. The school fired her (stupidly), and protests were in her favor.

There has always been a mob mentality, but it was hard to gather a mob. You had to get people to gather in person, and get them angry. Now you just get them angry, and you can do it sitting at home throwing together some memes and posting on Twitter. The bar didn't just drop a little, it dropped like 99%.

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