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Re:On the Experience of Being Poor-Ish, for People Who Aren't by rossdavidh on Monday March 01, 2021 @01:21PM (#26306064)
If you're talking to the people in the professional class already, your points are valid. If you're talking to someone in OP's situation back then, your points are dispiriting. I know you didn't mean it that way, but it is important to a person who is in a disadvantaged situation to not hear well-meaning members of the professional class saying what sounds like, "you can't make your situation better until the whole system is changed". I think OP's statement of "I made it and you can too" was clearly aimed, not at you or me probably, but a person in the same situation that OP was in years ago.
Re:On the Experience of Being Poor-Ish, for People Who Aren't by jrochkind1 on Monday March 01, 2021 @01:33PM (#26306246)
you make a good point.

The trick is separating "Don't give up" from "it's your fault if you haven't escpaed poverty."

Cause it's also dispiriting to have worked your ass off for 10+ years and still be poor and have someone telling you if you were trying hard enough you would be in a different position.

Re:On the Experience of Being Poor-Ish, for People Who Aren't by rossdavidh on Monday March 01, 2021 @08:01PM (#26310637)
I agree with that as well.
Re:On the Experience of Being Poor-Ish, for People Who Aren't by jrochkind1 on Tuesday March 02, 2021 @08:24AM (#26315008)
As I come back to this again I guess here's what I think it's really about:

The implication that there's some correlation between how hard you work and poverty. But most poor people I know work way harder than most "professional" people I know. If there's a correlation, it seems to me to be the reverse, poor people are, by neccessity to survive, as a general rule hustling a lot harder than wealthier people.

As the OP actually kind of outlines.