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Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by easton on Monday March 01, 2021 @08:11AM (#26302400)
What are your UX flaws with iMessage? The reason why I like it is because it’s got good UX (except when a message doesn’t send for no reason), but if there’s something I’m missing out on in other messenger apps...
Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by Andrew_nenakhov on Monday March 01, 2021 @08:49AM (#26302710)
I'd say not being able to message ~85% of smartphone users is a pretty big UX flaw.
Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by Terretta on Monday March 01, 2021 @12:05PM (#26305001)
You can message 100% of all smartphone users, it magically delivers as SMS. Also supports group chats with regular SMS users. Also supports MMS with them.

Given this pretty graceful degradation, what do you mean by not being able to message 85% of smartphone users?

Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by axaxs on Monday March 01, 2021 @04:44PM (#26308865)
Eh, that's terrible UX for everyone involved.

I'm more or less OK with the idea of Apple not developing for other platforms. However, they are actively hostile to anyone who has offered and tried to get interop working on other platforms, which is really a shame.

Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by Andrew_nenakhov on Monday March 01, 2021 @04:49PM (#26308922)
You really can call SMS a 'graceful degradation' while keeping a straight face? I call it intentionally crippling communication capabilities. Also, just say no to walled gardens.
Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by kumarharsh on Monday March 01, 2021 @12:24PM (#26305317)
I don't know about other countries, but in India at least, SMS's are generally paid and won't send if you don't have balance.

While WhatsApp/Telegram messages are actually free if you have got data.

And nowadays I get absolutely zero SMS's from people. All senders are now just bots and notification services.

Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by int_19h on Monday March 01, 2021 @06:49PM (#26310123)
How about non-smartphone, non-Mac users? Every other messaging app I can think of has a desktop client (even if it's a crappy one that requires linking to your phone, like WhatsApp).
Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by ulfw on Monday March 01, 2021 @10:08AM (#26303415)
That's not bad UX. That's a product limitation (a conscious one I might say).
Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by Andrew_nenakhov on Monday March 01, 2021 @10:48AM (#26303904)
This 'product limitation' makes user experience worse. Actually, it makes it unusable for most users.

Whether this limitation is intentional is irrelevant, the UX is still bad.

Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by Terretta on Monday March 01, 2021 @01:08PM (#26305903)
It’s also not the case that there is such a limitation.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207006

A single contact / conversation can even mix and match.

Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by Andrew_nenakhov on Monday March 01, 2021 @04:46PM (#26308887)
Are you really suggesting that SMS fallback is a good enough way to message people in 2021? How about sending them a video? Location? Voice message? MMS? Does this crap ever work?? (In my country it doesn't work between operators and costs €.5 for one message)
Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by lilactown on Monday March 01, 2021 @02:33PM (#26307189)
(not the OP) two big UX gripes I have with iMessage:

1) For some reason, photos take forever to be received (and sometimes are not received at all) when I send them to certain people. Best I can tell is they're using older devices and/or are in poor reception.

This + I can't send a photo with a message attached means that I'll send the photo, then a message with context, but the person never receives the photo so it's confusing.

2) There is no clear way to dismiss messages from the list of conversations without deleting them. It makes it hard to find conversations later when I have to scroll through a bunch of stuff I don't care about, but may want to search later.

Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by Spooky23 on Monday March 01, 2021 @11:58AM (#26304879)
Notable gaps:

- Only available on iOS and MacOS

- Copy and paste is unreliable on both iOS and MacOS

- Plugins don't exist on MacOS

- Lots of fail scenarios for phone number switching.

- You cannot control encryption outside of the AppleID ecosystem (AIM supported user certificates)

- You cannot control identity for a corporate device, unless you use Azure AD.

That said, it's a great service that I use every day. But it could be better. Facetime is way worse and more disappointing from an Apple POV.

Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by lordlimecat on Monday March 01, 2021 @10:15AM (#26303480)
Isn't there a significant UX trap in moving an imessage enabled SIM over to an android phone?
Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by Terretta on Monday March 01, 2021 @12:07PM (#26305027)
The SIM isn’t iMessage enabled. The number is registered as a symbolic iMessage ID. That can be fixed.

Here’s how to handle that before you move:

https://support.google.com/android/answer/6156081?hl=en

Here’s how to deregister that later:

https://selfsolve.apple.com/deregister-imessage/

Basically just SMS 2FA showing you control the number to deregister.

Re:The Last Message Sent on AIM by tantalor on Monday March 01, 2021 @08:15AM (#26302437)
As an Android user, the most obvious flaw of iMessage is incompatibility.