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Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by staticman2 on Saturday February 27, 2021 @12:55PM (#26286642)
You have to compare the amount of money your buddy paid into the pension plan vs 401k to even begin to do an alalysis. (With or without the 401k/ employer pension match)

I have a pension and if I maxed out a 401k it would grow "bigger" but that means I'd be saving more than the pension plan payments that come from my salary require me to save.

Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by kortilla on Tuesday March 02, 2021 @09:31PM (#26324002)
I do know those numbers, he showed me. The contributions to the pensions were higher and the pension growth was just garbage for two reasons:

- there was no individual selection in pension investment. They are risk averse so you end up with bullshit total market stuff that gets tepid gains compared to US stocks.

- it’s impacted by the performance of the company. Many pensions invested part of the money into their own stock/industry so a downturn would impact both job prospects and the pension performance

Pensions are “I know better than thee” bullshit run by a company with some kind of elected moron deciding what happens with your retirement. No thanks