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Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by chrisgd on Saturday February 27, 2021 @07:51AM (#26284541)
But there is a buyer and seller in the transaction regardless of whether one person is gambling or investing.
Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by gandalfian on Saturday February 27, 2021 @08:48AM (#26284798)
You buy a share, it goes up. You sell it to me. Share goes up more. We have both won. How? Because the company created more stuff and injected it into the equation. We can literally get more out than we put in.
Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by chrisgd on Saturday February 27, 2021 @12:31PM (#26286393)
Me buying a share from you has no impact on the company. They only benefit if they can sell primary shares. A company’s ability to monetize a rising stock price is time consuming, you can’t decide tomorrow to issue $100m worth of shares and be able to sell them
Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by gretch on Saturday February 27, 2021 @12:50PM (#26286590)
No, a higher stock price (caused by the demand and transaction volume generated) is valued immediately as compensation.

If your stock goes up, employee morale is high and ppl want to stay the rest of their vesting schedule. If the stock goes down you have to compensate employees with more cash.

Also, acquisitions are made in stock deals

Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by ptero on Saturday February 27, 2021 @08:04AM (#26284609)
And for early trades of a stock, in the analogy of the poster you replied to, the seller is a creator (inventor, builder, etc.) who needs money to build or expand and a buyer provides money for him to do that for part of future profit. That should be a profitable trade for both sides.

The secondary market (where people just swap ownership) serves (spikes and manias aside) to reallocate money to more productive companies. This, by the way, is the area that is really suffering under current "only invest in indices because EMH" mantra. My 2c.

Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by robjan on Saturday February 27, 2021 @08:12AM (#26284638)
That doesn't make it a zero sum game. The transaction is zero sum but not the market. If the market were zero sum, the indices would never change.
Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by tekkk on Saturday February 27, 2021 @08:06AM (#26284615)
True, but when a company sells their stock in for example IPO, it is a mutual goal of yours and theirs to see that the company rises in value.
Re:Are You Trading or Gambling? by chrisgd on Saturday February 27, 2021 @12:32PM (#26286410)
Maybe. Or to buy at 19 and sell the next day at 24