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Re:US says Saudi prince approved Khashoggi killing by duxup on Friday February 26, 2021 @02:18PM (#26278650)
Any influence /= as much influence as before / countries looking to the US when they take their own actions.

As alliances shift in the middle east it's not surprising that Israel would be involved. Relations / tensions are pretty wild in the Middle East. I think 'unlikely' alliances are almost inevitable, and maybe not as unlikely as we think. There area lot of strangely conflicting incentives out there.

Re:US says Saudi prince approved Khashoggi killing by zikzak on Friday February 26, 2021 @02:26PM (#26278757)
Surely, some of it was also political theatre to give the US administration a win in the region (Mission Accomplished, all over again) in exchange for the sale of advanced weapons systems. Just my two cents.
Re:US says Saudi prince approved Khashoggi killing by duxup on Friday February 26, 2021 @02:29PM (#26278805)
Maybe but despite the fact that they might celebrate it... I really doubt the value of "hey someone opened up diplomatic relations with Israel" is all that valuable to a given US politician... same goes with the state that chose to do so.

I think whatever horse trading happened behind the scenes was likely more valuable than PR.

Re:US says Saudi prince approved Khashoggi killing by zikzak on Sunday February 28, 2021 @12:38PM (#26295129)
I don't disagree on the reality, I am just saying that in my personal reading of various subreddits, forums, etc. I have seen countless posts and pundits saying what a great Job Trump and Kushner did on these agreements. It was clearly being used to show off their accomplishments in the region, real or not.