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Re:The future of web software is HTML over WebSockets by ricketycricket on Thursday February 25, 2021 @11:14PM (#26271295)
> then what's the purpose of HTML over web sockets?

Because you can do things stateless HTML alone cannot do.

No one is trying to re-implement HTTP, or even remove it from the equation.

What people are trying to reimplement (or rather, replace) is the HTML + JSON:API + React + Redux mess. Websockets is a means to that end.

Re:The future of web software is HTML over WebSockets by wokwokwok on Thursday February 25, 2021 @11:22PM (#26271340)
Hm... great intentions, but you don’t seem to have actually answered any of the questions from the parent comment.

Unfortunately, great intentions alone won’t make this work; someone has to actually answer the hard questions about how it’s going to work too.

All the answers I’ve seen so far trying to answer them have been vague hand waving...

That doesn’t leave me with much confidence.

Re:The future of web software is HTML over WebSockets by coldtea on Friday February 26, 2021 @01:14AM (#26271818)
>Unfortunately, great intentions alone won’t make this work; someone has to actually answer the hard questions about how it’s going to work too.

People did better than that, they already built applications with this model.

Re:The future of web software is HTML over WebSockets by ricketycricket on Thursday February 25, 2021 @11:35PM (#26271397)
You are welcome to actually look at the code for any of these solutions.

Here is the documentation for Phoenix channel authentication (what Phoenix Live View is built upon): https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix/channels.html#using-token-authent...

Additionally, here is some documentation on the security considerations specific to Live View: https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix_live_view/security-model.html

Searching can probably find you more information.