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Re:The Framework Laptop by Alupis on Thursday February 25, 2021 @02:22PM (#26266996)
Any chance of one that doesn't look like a Macbook clone?

I, personally, am tired of the brushed aluminum with black bezels and keyboard look. The materials can remain the same, but some colored options would be wonderful - like the HP Spectre x360's with blue and black options, etc.

Everything else looks wonderful, particularly the mobo upgrades for newer CPU/GPU combinations... and even better - getting to choose the ports I need! Love that!

Re:The Framework Laptop by AceJohnny2 on Thursday February 25, 2021 @02:40PM (#26267230)
Thanks to Apple, there's probably a solid "aluminium case" manufacturing pipeline that Framework might be able to leverage. That's a wild guess though, I can imagine Apple keeping that tightly under their thumbs.

Extra colors add cost. You have to plan for which colors might be popular, and which won't, in which case you'd have to sell at a discount to get rid of inventory. I'd be surprised if Framework offered that out of the gate.

Re:The Framework Laptop by Judgmentality on Thursday February 25, 2021 @05:44PM (#26269299)
> Thanks to Apple, there's probably a solid "aluminium case" manufacturing pipeline that Framework might be able to leverage.

Apple literally has buildings filled with thousands of CNC machines milling aluminum laptop cases.

Apple does not manufacture things the same way as the rest of the industry, as they have the money and the scale to do whatever the fuck they want.

https://beneinstein.medium.com/no-you-cant-manufacture-that-...

Re:The Framework Laptop by Waterluvian on Thursday February 25, 2021 @06:34PM (#26269753)
And it shows. I've never had an aluminum laptop feel like a macbook chassis. There's just something about the thickness? Rigidity?
Re:The Framework Laptop by airbreather on Thursday February 25, 2021 @10:17PM (#26271042)
I have Xaiomi mac like clone that was less than half the price for same specs and the body is totally ridged aluminum.
Re:The Framework Laptop by pbronez on Thursday February 25, 2021 @03:12PM (#26267626)
The website says the main bezel is magnetic, and can be replaced with various colors. Probably have to wait for future revisions before they do crazier designs... cloning Apple is a way to message the quality / price point they’re shooting for.
Re:The Framework Laptop by hedora on Thursday February 25, 2021 @02:40PM (#26267232)
I’ll take one in all black, with a matte display; will definitely pay extra for oled with insanely good black levels. :-)
Re:The Framework Laptop by reaperducer on Thursday February 25, 2021 @02:44PM (#26267286)
Any chance of one that doesn't look like a Macbook clone?

If it came in certain tasteful colors, that would get my wife to switch from Apple to Linux. (She works in the fashion industry.)

Re:The Framework Laptop by sudosteph on Thursday February 25, 2021 @04:18PM (#26268461)
+1 to this, except I would like a plastic alternative to the aluminum in the case as well.

While it's commendable that framework is picking those materials to environmentally conscious - I have had such terrible past experiences with "aluminum" body laptops triggering eczema outbreaks[1] - that I avoid metal cases as a rule now.

[1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291384767_Allergy_r... TLDR: many metallic cases have nickel or cobalt present, and it releases when you sweat. Sometimes this triggers contact dermatitis (eczema) if you're sensitized to it.

Re:The Framework Laptop by pedalpete on Thursday February 25, 2021 @05:18PM (#26269053)
Wouldn't a case or skin be a better solution to this than a plastic housing?
Re:The Framework Laptop by sudosteph on Thursday February 25, 2021 @05:42PM (#26269267)
I always worry about ventilation with cases, though that may unwarranted depending on the particular case / skin. I was cheap (and not sure if the laptop was my root issue at the time), so I ended up putting duct tape over the area my wrists touched, and that helped a lot. It looked pretty silly though.

That said, when I had the option to get a laptop where I wouldn't have to think about it at all (plastic cased thinkpad), I jumped for it. Maybe I've just developed a deep-seated, emotional resentment for metal bodied laptops in general after spending so long dealing with itchy/oozy hands, wrists and forearms. Also all the doctors who just prescribed steroid creams and blamed stress...

Re:The Framework Laptop by pedalpete on Thursday February 25, 2021 @05:53PM (#26269387)
Yeah, I get it. I think plastic cases are going to be a tough sell for a company looking to be environmentally friendly. :)

You're also not in the majority, but as I stated, I'd prefer a non-metal looking laptop. I've got a Razer Blade Stealth 13 which I had to put a skin on because it's a fingerprint magnet. Skins really aren't that bad, and they're designed to not block the vents.

Re:The Framework Laptop by Alupis on Thursday February 25, 2021 @06:02PM (#26269468)
Unless you just want to put a skin on your laptop, this feels like the whole "Rubber Band Antenna-gate" thing from Apple years back. The device should work as-is without some extra covering being required.

Not everyone has skin allergies, but if you are mass producing devices that will be in close contact with skin for long durations, made with metals that are well known to cause skin irritation - sooner or later you're going to run into people that are affected.

Re:The Framework Laptop by sudosteph on Thursday February 25, 2021 @06:28PM (#26269706)
Additionally, due to the way that the allergic sensitization process happens - many people only develop a reaction after frequent, long-term exposure. So it's very possible to use a metal laptop without experiencing an issue for a long period of time, and then to develop problems down the road. This, along with the allergens sometimes being from contaminants in the metals (so not listed and somewhat variable) - makes it very hard to predict and to identify afterward.

So while I'm "rare", in that I know I've got an allergy with a very noticeable reaction that can be triggered by laptops - many people don't know that they are at risk of developing it, even though they are. Or maybe they know they have a nickel sensitivity (this issue is very common with people who wear cheap jewelry) - but they don't know a laptop can trigger it.

Unless there's a big push to do some sort of widespread contaminant testing on laptops, I imagine this issue will grow if metal-body laptops continue to be the norm.