Re:Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees
by creaturemachine on Thursday February 25, 2021 @01:33PM
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The union will always be on your side, it's their reason for existing and what you're paying them for. They will support the most indefensible position you can throw at them because it's their job.
Re:Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees
by leesalminen on Thursday February 25, 2021 @03:02PM
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I’d recommend talking with employees of my local unionized Kroger, especially younger employees. The union is not always on their side. Benefits are heavily skewed to older employees by virtue of having more working-age years.
Re:Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees
by chrisseaton on Thursday February 25, 2021 @02:18PM
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> The union will always be on your side
This just isn't true.
If I'm a junior worker in a union with a pay-by-seniority agreement because the majority of workers are senior, then they aren't on my side are they? They're on the side of the majority senior workers. They're on the side against me and my aspirations to get paid more.
Re:Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees
by chc on Thursday February 25, 2021 @06:52PM
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In that situation, you have a clear way of getting paid more: Keep working, same as everyone else did. You're not getting special treatment, but it's not like they're working against you either.
Re:Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees
by chrisseaton on Thursday February 25, 2021 @06:59PM
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Or I could vote against unionisation in the first place.
Re:Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees
by HarryHirsch on Thursday February 25, 2021 @01:30PM
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But I'm not sure the union is going to be on my side.
If you aren't, check the agreements the union has with you and your employer. These are contracts with enforceable terms and are upheld.
Re:Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees
by chrisseaton on Thursday February 25, 2021 @07:09PM
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> These are contracts with enforceable terms and are upheld.
Stop and think this through for just a second.
Try this thought experiment:
If I want dogs in the office and my colleague wants dogs banned, you’re telling me you think the union will simultaneously negotiate for both our positions with our employer?
Does not compute. It is not possible for them to be on everyone's side.
But I'm not sure the union is going to be on my side. I know that's their pitch, but lots of people claim they want to act on my behalf - I'd be a fool to trust most of them!