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Re:Rust for web development: 2 years later by onei on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @02:04PM (#26254116)
This is an argument I've never come across before and I'm curious - why does web development require the use of garbage collection? Recent blogs I've seen suggest that at very large scale, garbage collection in languages like Go have severe side-effects, although obviously there's very few of us running at that scale.
Re:Rust for web development: 2 years later by sweeneyrod on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @02:35PM (#26254522)
The question shouldn't be "why does web development require the use of garbage collection" but "why would you not use a language with a GC when you have the opportunity". Before Rust (and after the 90s or whenever hardware became sufficiently cheap) it would've been very odd to consider a non-GCed language for something like webdev. Even for things like high-frequency trading where reliable low latency is very important, some companies think using GCed languages like Java and inventing hacks to avoid GC pauses when necessary is a worthwhile tradeoff because of the productivity gain from having a GC.

Certainly Rust has done lots of cool stuff to make living without a GC easier. And maybe it has sufficient compensating advantages to make it worth using for things like webdev (although I wish more of its proponents would try different statically typed functional languages that share some of those advantages but don't make you manage memory manually). But lacking a GC is still pretty clearly a disadvantage outside of a few areas (namely, those where people often use C++).

Re:Rust for web development: 2 years later by sudeepj on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @02:30PM (#26254466)
> Web development without garbage collector sounds like a bad idea.

Before rust, all the mainstream non-gc'ed languages (i.e C/C++) were not recommended mainly due to potential security issues.

The only options left were gc'ed languages (e.g Python, Java, Go).

Now Rust enters which addresses a lot C/C++ issues but the ergonomics, lack of tooling & learning curve is too much for lot of basic web services.

For large scale web services, investing in Rust makes sense to make it more performant & resource efficient, especially a lot of $$ is riding on it.