No. But with respect to how Google News and Faceook use "news" to support their respective rackets, I think this is different from the example of HN. For one, HN is not trying to compete for advertiser payments with every website that gets submitted. "Commercial" in the sense I am using it means deriving revenue from the use of news. Perhaps HN does that somehow but to support its VC business but that seems a poor comparison to the likes of Google/Facebook. Big difference between Google News and HN, or a Facebook "news feed" and HN.