They may be a generation removed, but undeniably culturally intwined. I used to have a few beers with Stan on occasion when I was a flailing college student—you could usually find him for a pint at a couple of spots around the Annex in Toronto. He had stories.

edit: I had included "So is David McFadden [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_McFadden_(poet)]" but as soon as I actually looked at the page I'd discovered he's passed as well. I feel fortunate for having the chance to see him read at a small pub across from the AGO a decade ago or so.