Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by spinny on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @03:38PM
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bisq is the most anonymous way that i know of
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Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by john_alan on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @03:40PM
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Good luck spending the tainted BTC you buy on Bisq.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by heavyset_go on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @05:03PM
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I doubt that the one valid use case for Bitcoin, purchasing things on the grey/black market, is impacted by tainted BTC.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by x86_64Ubuntu on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @03:44PM
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So they actually have measures to stop tumbled coins from re-entering the supply?
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by rattlesnakedave on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @04:05PM
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tainted BTC doesn't exist.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by Kranar on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @04:20PM
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It absolutely does, there are plenty of BTC addresses that are tainted and not accepted by exchanges.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by alfiedotwtf on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @04:31PM
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How does it work if you just send the entire “tainted” coin to a new address and then send that to the exchange? Sounds like smoke and mirrors to me
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by john_alan on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @04:43PM
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Very simply. They don’t allow coins with that lineage. There are so many people ignorant of the reality of bitcoins fungibility problem it amazes me.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by gojomo on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @04:55PM
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If sent such tainted bitcoins, do the exchanges send them back, or seize them?
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by Kranar on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @05:05PM
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Coinbase won't let you sell tainted coins but will let you withdraw them. No exchange will seize them.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by alfiedotwtf on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @05:30PM
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> ignorant of the reality of bitcoins fungibility
This is not an issue with bitcoin, but of exchanges. That's why I specifically asked if exchanges cared if taintedness was transitive.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by Kranar on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @04:47PM
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I have to be blunt but this is a very basic property of the blockchain, which by design keeps an entire history of every single transaction (source and destination address) that is ever made.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by john_alan on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @04:56PM
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This type of lack of understanding is rife. Makes me quite bullish on Monero when people realise how little privacy Bitcoin and crappy forks provide. Might see a signal type movement to Monero.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by heavyset_go on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @05:06PM
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I don't think that irrational retail investors understand, or care to understand, Bitcoin or Monero implementation details. Bitcoin's valuation has little to do with its technical merits. It's all just internet money to most people.
Re:Xmr.to shuts down Monero exchange service
by john_alan on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @05:18PM
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Yea I agree right now.
But even showing a few newbie friends how I could see their balance and transactions after they sent me BTC or shared their address with me, baffled them, they couldn’t believe it.
People will start to care as they become extorted, or embarrassed. Privacy is a fundamental requirement of good money.
I think people will learn this over time and gravitate towards a better money for the internet.