what are you talking about? This is exactly the kind of research that's classified as AI ethics. "Solving these issues".
> instead of focusing on real issues that cause systemic discrimination
Identifying which ML models _actually running in production_ cause systemic discrimination (e.g. as you mentioned poor image recognition, bail predictions, etc.) is exactly focusing on real issues that... cause systemic discrimination.
> AI is not causing systemic discrimination
This is simply not true. Bad ML models have an impact on systemic discrimination right now, in that they amplify it.
> instead of focusing on real issues that cause systemic discrimination
It's a fallacy to think we can't do both, there's enough humans. Both making better AI and making better societal systems.
There's nothing systemic about these issues. I already mentioned it's a data problem. Nothing new. It's very easy to build a fair image recognition system by representing all demographics. And even then AI systems will continue to make mistakes. Some AI ethics researchers cherry pick on those mistakes to justify their entire research.
I wish it was easy. Unfortunately, reality is more complicated, as it tends to be [1,2,3,4].
[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.03058
[2] https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.05248
[3] https://arxiv.org/abs/2008.11600
[4] https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.12101
> Some AI ethics researchers cherry pick on those mistakes to justify their entire research.
This is a weird statement. This is like saying police cherry pick on criminals to justify their existence.
Do you not believe in harm reduction? Don't you think some part of AI research should be dedicated to minimizing how many "AI systems will continue to make mistakes"?
I do agree that in the real world datasets are often biased because they represent the real world... and there are indeed modeling approaches to address such issues. (e.g., designing a loss function to up/down weight of certain types of examples). There's nothing new about this, it's been known in ML for decades.
AI systems are trained on data. There's an abundance of English data which is why systems are often biased to work better on English. Similarly, an image recognition system might be biased if you don't provide it with data representing all demographics. There's nothing new about this and you don't need AI ethics research to solve these issue.
Focusing on AI ethics thinking it has impact on systemic discrimination, instead of focusing on real issues that cause systemic discrimination, is my main issue with all of this.