OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware

Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by BillinghamJ on Sunday February 21, 2021 @04:07AM (#26212029)

I guess we could fairly call it a undocumented or obscure garden? But there's no real designed wall there.

Apple aren't preventing anything, they're just not helping us out either. Agree it would be nice for them to help out a little, but it's really not the same thing.

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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by p_l on Sunday February 21, 2021 @04:27AM (#26212108)

IIRC, it turned out that ability to run non Apple OSes depends on one person who implemented it and is responsible for it. It wasn't part of any road map for M1

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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by saagarjha on Sunday February 21, 2021 @07:35AM (#26213036)

There's certainly more than one person involved.

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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by webmobdev on Sunday February 21, 2021 @07:13AM (#26212912)

> Apple aren't preventing anything, they're just not helping us out either.

It's the same thing. (And the only reason they aren't yet outright preventing it is because it would be bad PR - nobody wants their desktop computer to be like the iPhone or iPad. But it will happen.)

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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by coldtea on Sunday February 21, 2021 @10:01AM (#26213919)

>nobody wants their desktop computer to be like the iPhone or iPad

You'd be surprised.

(Also, this exactly has been the proposition and allure of the Chromebooks - a computer that you can just wipe and restart again and it's like a phone or tablet device, and your data are synced in the cloud).

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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by ogre_codes on Sunday February 21, 2021 @10:55PM (#26220684)

Apple has a computer with a locked down OS, it's the iPad. Apple sells the iPad as a locked down system because some users prefer a less flexible, more predictable, and secure system.

Apple has a computer which isn't locked down, it's the Mac. Apple maintains MacOS as a flexible/ pro platform because if they didn't, they wouldn't be able to sell $2000-8000 Macs to pro users who need that power and flexibility to do their jobs.

For Apple there is zero profit in neutering the Mac. Whatever profits you think Apple could make by forcing people to use the Mac App Store, would be dwarfed by the sales lost due to pro & power users leaving the system en-masse.

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