Re:The Process Is Not the Product. The New Agile Anti-Manifesto
by Viliam1234 on Saturday February 20, 2021 @11:53AM
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> They think they're adding value by just pushing people constantly.
Isn't this what traditionally most managers were doing?
I remember my first job, decades ago, before agile was a thing, when I had this interaction with my boss constantly: "How long is this new feature going to take?" "Not sure, probably three weeks." "Are you absolutely sure it can't be done in two weeks?" "Well, I guess in the lucky case it might be possible, but..." "Great, so two weeks it is." Then complaining about how I said two weeks and broke my promise, when it actually took two weeks and a half.
The only difference is that now you can do it with numbers, so it seems more "scientific", even if all numbers are ultimately just guesses.
Isn't this what traditionally most managers were doing?
I remember my first job, decades ago, before agile was a thing, when I had this interaction with my boss constantly: "How long is this new feature going to take?" "Not sure, probably three weeks." "Are you absolutely sure it can't be done in two weeks?" "Well, I guess in the lucky case it might be possible, but..." "Great, so two weeks it is." Then complaining about how I said two weeks and broke my promise, when it actually took two weeks and a half.
The only difference is that now you can do it with numbers, so it seems more "scientific", even if all numbers are ultimately just guesses.