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Re:Hate Java? You’re fighting the wrong battle. by bfung on Saturday June 04, 2011 @02:05PM (#2620022)
any of them write a more successful language than Java? or how about Visual Basic even? For all the complaints, at least Java moved programming technology to another level on a massive scale, lest we all be complaining about C/C++ still.
Re:Hate Java? You’re fighting the wrong battle. by anonymoushn on Saturday June 04, 2011 @02:38PM (#2620124)
Java seems to be mostly a step backwards from C++ in terms of expressiveness, with kludges here and there to hide the fact. Because the kludges are very slow, I have had significantly less luck optimizing Java than C++.
Re:Hate Java? You’re fighting the wrong battle. by seanp2k on Saturday June 04, 2011 @03:13PM (#2620217)
C / C++ are fun :)
Re:Hate Java? You’re fighting the wrong battle. by younata on Saturday June 04, 2011 @04:28PM (#2620377)
Indeed. I implemented a linked list in C the other day, and it's the most fun I've had programming in years.

as an aside, I feel old being able to talk about having programmed for years.

Re:Hate Java? You’re fighting the wrong battle. by VB6_Foreverr on Saturday June 04, 2011 @07:07PM (#2620692)
Coding in VB6 keeps you forever young
Re:Hate Java? You’re fighting the wrong battle. by younata on Saturday June 04, 2011 @09:34PM (#2621010)
oh, gods, BASIC.

my first programming experience was in unstructured BASIC. I think I've managed to reverse the brain damage from that, but I can't be too sure.