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Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by Mediterraneo10 on Friday February 19, 2021 @12:15PM (#26195294)
Some of that government data existed in the form of physical maps, and the data was difficult to access because it had never been digitized, even government-internally. No one was prevented from digitizing it themselves, and in fact a lot of early OSM data came from enthusiasts digitizing old US Army maps because, indeed, they were public domain.

Then you have cases like the Ordnance Survey in the UK where apparently a lot of the data is neither freely available to the general public, nor paid for by the general public.

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by alwayshumans on Friday February 19, 2021 @04:36PM (#26198325)
The OS are making a lot more data freely available as part of the Geospatial commission push to make geospatial data more widely available to drive innovation. I wouldn't be surprised if this is all a slow response to external activities like OSM and Google
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by MrMorden on Saturday February 20, 2021 @12:24AM (#26201848)
I remember reading that when all OS data cost money half of their income came from other government departments, so once you add dealing with all that licensing there's not much extra cost to just fund it out of general revenue.
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by tobylane on Saturday February 20, 2021 @02:46AM (#26202396)
It’s also in response to the urban planning difficulty of knowing who owns what or what’s under this spot.
Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by malandrew on Friday February 19, 2021 @12:34PM (#26195547)
> a lot of early OSM data came from enthusiasts digitizing old US Army maps because, indeed, they were public domain

But that's the rub, we the taxpayers have paid for all the map creation, even the new high resolution ones with far greater accuracy, yet we're stuck with these older, lower resolution and likely out-of-date maps. Even the new maps should be public domain.

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by paxswill on Friday February 19, 2021 @01:10PM (#26196008)
If you're referring to maps produced by the US government, they are in the public domain. Early on it sounds like there wasn't an easy way to transfer "raw" map data around (hence the tracing), but it's pretty easy now to access official maps in full resolution:

* US Geological Survey: https://www.usgs.gov/core-science-systems/ngp/tnm-delivery

* National Park Service: https://mapservices.nps.gov/arcgis/rest/services

* US Forest Service: https://www.fs.usda.gov/visit/maps (the API access is further down that page).

Those linked above typically available through a standard API (Tile Map Service), as well as ESRI's moderately well documented REST API for accessing shapefiles and features. My one complaint about this data is how the USFS manages their data. In that case it seems each service region defines how data should be made available, so you have a pile of different methods for accessing things like road/trail features, or points of interest (in many cases, it comes down to "fetch this pile of ZIP files").

Re:OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction by mc32 on Friday February 19, 2021 @12:44PM (#26195680)
?? Some countries don’t have the resources for high precision maps. They have old maps from whenever they were commissioned.